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Moral objections against vigilantism?
Posted by oogabooga68 on 6/22/22 at 10:08 am
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3It's become painfully clear in 2022 that Politicians, Judges, Lawyers, and Police persons of certain Political persuasions have zero interest in doing their jobs.
In fact, Democrats have (once again) decided that criminals and their families/advocates are more important than honest, law-abiding citizens.
Legal arguments aside (as a pure hypothetical of course considering most of us have lost our guns in boating accidents), do most of you have a moral revulsion to vigilantism?
To what degree?
Do you shed a tear when you see a repeat offender receiving instant karma while in the commission of a crime?
In fact, Democrats have (once again) decided that criminals and their families/advocates are more important than honest, law-abiding citizens.
Legal arguments aside (as a pure hypothetical of course considering most of us have lost our guns in boating accidents), do most of you have a moral revulsion to vigilantism?
To what degree?
Do you shed a tear when you see a repeat offender receiving instant karma while in the commission of a crime?
Posted by The Maj 
on 6/22/22 at 10:10 am to oogabooga68
on 6/22/22 at 10:10 am to oogabooga68Nope, I do not shed a tear but if they are committing a crime and meet their end, is that vigilantism or self defense?
Posted by oogabooga68 on 6/22/22 at 10:13 am to The Maj
Depends on the situation which is why i made sure to say " legal arguments aside".
Posted by ninthward 
on 6/22/22 at 10:16 am to oogabooga68
on 6/22/22 at 10:16 am to oogabooga68The Kersey Crime Prevention Method reduced crime by 50%.
Posted by The Maj on 6/22/22 at 10:17 am to oogabooga68
on 6/22/22 at 10:17 am to oogabooga68Not really a legal argument.
Self defense is never vigilantism.
Self defense is never vigilantism.
Posted by AggieHank86 
on 6/22/22 at 10:19 am to oogabooga68
on 6/22/22 at 10:19 am to oogabooga68Constitution
Due process of law
Without them, we would be no better than animals. End of story
Due process of law
Without them, we would be no better than animals. End of story
Posted by oogabooga68 on 6/22/22 at 10:27 am to The Maj
quote:
Self defense is never vigilantism.
There are too many scumbag Lawyers/Judges/Prosecutors who would unfortunately argue otherwise.
I believe that virtuous people in our Legal system is now the exception, not the rule.
Posted by HabaneroBuck on 6/22/22 at 10:35 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Constitution
Due process of law
Without them, we would be no better than animals. End of story
Not the end of the story. Everyone loves Robocop, Dirty Harry, and Paul Kersey for a reason.
Without Justice we are no better than animals. I have no moral qualms with righteous kills, but obviously vigilantism lends itself to being in the wrong on occasion.
The System is poking and prodding everyone with a sense of righteousness into a pit of despair. We are warned about gun violence daily but see the perpetrators of said violence released back into the streets via a revolving door mechanism. There is a breaking point.
Posted by HabaneroBuck on 6/22/22 at 10:36 am to The Maj
quote:
Self defense is never vigilantism.
Technically, vigilantism is not self-defense. It is more an act of hunting down guilty perpetrators. "Taking the law into your own hands."
Posted by YumYum Sauce 
on 6/22/22 at 10:45 am to AggieHank86
on 6/22/22 at 10:45 am to AggieHank86quote:
Constitution
Due process of law
Without them, we would be no better than animals.
We have foreign billionaires pumping money into local elections for DA's, PAs, mayors, etc.
Im not sure we are but a step or two higher than said animals.
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Posted by JColtF on 6/22/22 at 10:48 am to AggieHank86
on 6/22/22 at 10:48 am to AggieHank86quote:
Constitution
Due process of law
Without them, we would be no better than animals. End of story
And if those are perverted beyond our ability to fix them?
Posted by oogabooga68 on 6/22/22 at 10:55 am to cwill
quote:
Due process.
Pure fantasy at this point.
Too many scumbag Lawyers and corrupt and or biased Judges/Prosecutors.
Posted by Flats 
on 6/22/22 at 10:57 am to AggieHank86
on 6/22/22 at 10:57 am to AggieHank86quote:
Constitution
Due process of law
Without them, we would be no better than animals. End of story
Vigilantism, the justified kind anyway, arises when those things have already perished.
Posted by BigMob 
on 6/22/22 at 10:57 am to oogabooga68
on 6/22/22 at 10:57 am to oogabooga68I have no qualms about vigilantism up until the point you get the wrong guy. Then it kinda sucks.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass on 6/22/22 at 10:58 am to cwill
on 6/22/22 at 10:58 am to cwillquote:
Due process.
Aaaaah, the good ol’ days!
Posted by the808bass on 6/22/22 at 10:59 am to oogabooga68
quote:
Moral objections against vigilantism?
Many. The chief argument against it is that it devolves into a French Revolution-esque Reign of Terror.
Posted by The Maj on 6/22/22 at 11:01 am to AggieHank86
on 6/22/22 at 11:01 am to AggieHank86quote:
Due process of law
When criminals have more rights than victims is there really due process any longer?
Posted by squid_hunt on 6/22/22 at 11:01 am to oogabooga68
quote:
do most of you have a moral revulsion to vigilantism?
When the government fails to enact it's duty to punish wicked doers, there is a point where the citizens must step up and act to purge the land from evil. There is coming a time very soon when we will have to to step up as kinsmen to avenge wrong doing.
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