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oogabooga68
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Moral objections against vigilantism?

It's become painfully clear in 2022 that Politicians, Judges, Lawyers, and Police persons of certain Political persuasions have zero interest in doing their jobs.

In fact, Democrats have (once again) decided that criminals and their families/advocates are more important than honest, law-abiding citizens.

Legal arguments aside (as a pure hypothetical of course considering most of us have lost our guns in boating accidents), do most of you have a moral revulsion to vigilantism?

To what degree?

Do you shed a tear when you see a repeat offender receiving instant karma while in the commission of a crime?


The Maj
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Nope, I do not shed a tear but if they are committing a crime and meet their end, is that vigilantism or self defense?


oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Depends on the situation which is why i made sure to say " legal arguments aside".


ninthward
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The Kersey Crime Prevention Method reduced crime by 50%.


The Maj
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Not really a legal argument.

Self defense is never vigilantism.


AggieHank86
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Constitution
Due process of law

Without them, we would be no better than animals. End of story


oogabooga68
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Self defense is never vigilantism.


There are too many scumbag Lawyers/Judges/Prosecutors who would unfortunately argue otherwise.

I believe that virtuous people in our Legal system is now the exception, not the rule.


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HabaneroBuck
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quote:

Constitution
Due process of law

Without them, we would be no better than animals. End of story


Not the end of the story. Everyone loves Robocop, Dirty Harry, and Paul Kersey for a reason.

Without Justice we are no better than animals. I have no moral qualms with righteous kills, but obviously vigilantism lends itself to being in the wrong on occasion.

The System is poking and prodding everyone with a sense of righteousness into a pit of despair. We are warned about gun violence daily but see the perpetrators of said violence released back into the streets via a revolving door mechanism. There is a breaking point.


HabaneroBuck
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Self defense is never vigilantism.


Technically, vigilantism is not self-defense. It is more an act of hunting down guilty perpetrators. "Taking the law into your own hands."


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YumYum Sauce
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quote:

Constitution
Due process of law

Without them, we would be no better than animals.


We have foreign billionaires pumping money into local elections for DA's, PAs, mayors, etc.

Im not sure we are but a step or two higher than said animals.


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JColtF
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quote:

Constitution
Due process of law

Without them, we would be no better than animals. End of story


And if those are perverted beyond our ability to fix them?


cwill
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Due process.


oogabooga68
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Did you say "if"?


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oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Due process.


Pure fantasy at this point.

Too many scumbag Lawyers and corrupt and or biased Judges/Prosecutors.


Flats
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Constitution
Due process of law

Without them, we would be no better than animals. End of story



Vigilantism, the justified kind anyway, arises when those things have already perished.


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BigMob
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I have no qualms about vigilantism up until the point you get the wrong guy. Then it kinda sucks.


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HonoraryCoonass
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Due process.


Aaaaah, the good ol’ days!


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the808bass
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Moral objections against vigilantism?


Many. The chief argument against it is that it devolves into a French Revolution-esque Reign of Terror.


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The Maj
Alabama Fan
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quote:

Due process of law


When criminals have more rights than victims is there really due process any longer?


squid_hunt
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do most of you have a moral revulsion to vigilantism?

When the government fails to enact it's duty to punish wicked doers, there is a point where the citizens must step up and act to purge the land from evil. There is coming a time very soon when we will have to to step up as kinsmen to avenge wrong doing.


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