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re: Michigan Supreme Court rules RFK Jr. must stay on ballot

Posted on 9/9/24 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 7:55 pm to
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Totally different thing. Joe Biden was never the official party nominee and never received the nomination.


And fricking RFK did?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
41246 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:00 pm to
lol Biden literally won the democrat primary election and had all 138 Michigan Democrat party delegates pledged to him. The State party had nominated him every bit as much as the NLP state party nominated Kennedy. The difference is Biden was allowed to drop out and Kennedy wasnt
Posted by CalTiger53
California
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 9:26 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28779 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:11 pm to
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Joe Biden was never the official party nominee and never received the nomination.
which official nom did Kennedy win?

Eta - wasn't aware of the NLP nom
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 8:14 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
6747 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:16 pm to
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Joe Biden was never the official party nominee and never received the nomination.


Umm... who won all the primaries? Who got all the democrat votes in all the democrat's primaries? Just sorta curious about that one, as I haven't really been keeping up.

Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:22 pm to
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Umm... who won all the primaries? Who got all the democrat votes in all the democrat's primaries? Just sorta curious about that one, as I haven't really been keeping up
Joe Biden did. Think back to more contested elections just because a state voted Bernie in primary doesn't mean Bernie had to be on the general election ballot..... Same thing here. Joe Biden didn't win the DNC nomination so he's not on the general election ballot despite winning Michigan in the primary.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18754 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:23 pm to
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re there really RFK Jr voters out there that don’t know that he has dropped out of the race in Michigan, and that he’ll be a part of the Trump administration if Trump wins? Any real RFK Jr voter wants to see him in some important position, and the only way that happens is if they vote for Trump


It is primarily because they dont want to reprint fake ballots. Not enough time.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
41246 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:37 pm to
Joe Biden did win the state primary and was pledged all 138 Democrat delegate votes from the Michigan Democrat Party. The difference is the state NLP is colluding with Dems to hold RFKs nomination hostage, while simultaneously allowing delegates to repledge to Kamala with nothing more than a virtual roll call vote.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:07 pm to
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The difference is the state NLP is colluding with Dems to hold RFKs nomination hostage,

Not at all. Their interests are aligned as I explained earlier. Their ability to have a party nomination at all is on the line here...

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Joe Biden did win the state primary and was pledged all 138 Democrat delegate votes from the Michigan Democrat Party.

Sure the delegates pledged for the democrat national convention. Prior to the convention Biden released them of their obligation as the rules allow in the DNC and they voted for Harris overwhelmingly.

Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
2477 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:18 pm to
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Michigan Supreme Court rules RFK Jr. must stay on ballot

Are they still not allowing CWest on the ballot too??
Posted by theballguy
Playoffs?
Member since Oct 2011
7114 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:19 pm to
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They wouldn't let him debate, but force him to stay on the ballot.



:welltheresafrickingsurprise:
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
41246 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:20 pm to
You are conflating the national parties with the state parties. NLP is a state party without a national party or convention, and did less to nominate Kennedy in Michigan than the state dem party did to nominate Biden. Michigan let the Dem delegates out of their pledge and the NLP didn’t. That’s the only legal difference… all while suing to kick an active independent candidate off of the very same ballot.

It’s election interference, and non of your bitching changes that.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
16526 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:46 pm to
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State issue, i believe.


State issue that can affect a federal election. Would that qualify?
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
1778 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:05 pm to
It should after the overturned that “state” issue when they tried to keep Trump off state ballots earlier this year?
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
2531 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:20 pm to
I predict none of this will matter. Trump will still win MI. The swing states tend to all go the same way. I believe at least 6 out of 7 swing states go Trump, and maybe all 7.
Posted by charlesmartinmike
North Alabama
Member since Mar 2009
342 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:12 am to
Some poster from up there needs to form a party tonight and nominate Hillary.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
30104 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:19 am to
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Michigan Supreme Court rules RFK Jr. must stay on ballot

Does anyone think this matters or hurts Trump?

No one who was voting for RFK and would vote for Trump after RFK's endorsement is still going to vote for RFK. At this point, I am all for giving people as many non-Harris options as possible.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
2431 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:21 am to
they are gonna use his name on the ballot to throw votes his way that nobody is even voting.

this shite is so rigged!

we just need to get it on!!!!
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
39078 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 1:22 am to
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They wouldn't let him debate, but force him to stay on the ballot.

Makes sense

Plus, they took Biden off the ballot and put the blow job queen on the ballot.

Imagine that.

Demoncrats never cease to be fricking hypocritical asshats. The root of all evil.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
81457 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 2:03 am to
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more about an extra slot they can shove these "found" votes into if the skullduggery is required in Michigan. They know eyes are on them and they can always scream "it was all those RFK votes!" when the numbers suddenly 'adjust'.
100% this

I mean the ballots are already filled out..
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