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re: Mayor demands school board resign or face child pornography charges for course material
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:27 am to lsu1919
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:27 am to lsu1919
40 years ago we all knew what sex was. It isn't some mystifying thing. Pornography is not sex, BTW. It's fantasy, and what a lot of people are upset about is the left's obsession with deviant lifestyles being taught in the mainstream. I reject that as being acceptable and it is certainly not a good thing for developing minds to learn about gay sex as "normal."
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:28 am to wareaglepete
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Did you see this part in the OP?
I did and I read the article. And I've read other posts after this that clarify what the article did not. Writing prompts in and of themselves don't seem to fit within the definition of child pornography. I believe OML's post below yours providers further information.
And to be clear - I am 100% against even the writing prompts being included in books in a HS curriculum. And I am 100% on the side of the idiot that called me a prog in this thread.
BTW, a judge commenting to a mayor what he thought about a book being child porn or not does not determine whether those individuals will be arrested. That's an executive branch function, and more specifically within the executive branch, a LEO function. Not a mayoral or judicial decision. All I was getting at is that the mayor doesn't, and shouldn't, determine whether these individuals are arrested.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:29 am to OMLandshark
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I can’t post it here, but I’ve seen the book he’s talking about. Honestly I wish I hadn’t since I’m sure just coming across it on Twitter put me on an FBI watch list. In it it shows two teenage boys blowing each other. It’s illustrated, but child porn nonetheless.
I appreciate this clarification. My assessment was made from the article as written and the video.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:41 am to lsu1919
quote:So you're all in for teens being instructed to “describe a time when you wanted to orgasm but couldn’t” or to describe "the first time they had sex," or coming up with an “X-rated Disney scenario"???
It’s the typical republican reaction. Don’t teach them about sex or they’ll have it.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:44 am to rmc
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That's an executive branch function,
The Responsibility of the Mayor/Manager
The mayor is the chief executive and administrative officer of the city in charge of carrying out the policies set by the council and seeing to it that local laws are enforced.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:00 am to PaperTiger
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How about they be charged with child pornography and then forced to resign? It is crazy to me that this isnt the only option our there.
This of course if the material is truly pornographic in nature.
The school board were idiots for letting this happen. But the reality is that school boards don't review curriculum. They aren't professional educators...they are elected citizens like you and me. They hire superintendents who hire everyone else...including curriculum coordinators and directors of instruction. Those individuals at the district central office are the ones responsible...not the doctors, plumbers, construction workers, accountants, whoever, who were elected to the school boards.
Child pornography? There's no way in hell that sticks. First of all, there was no pornography. The potential assignment was to have the students acturally produce the pornography themselves, right? The students were supposed to write a sex scene they wouldn't show their parents. THAT would have been the pornography if it ever had been written, but it wasn't. That assignment was never given to the students.
Stupid decision by the school officials to ever put this book into students hands.
But it's also stupid posturing by the mayor. Elected school boards only hire one person...the superintendent of schools. The superintendent is responsible for the hiring of everyone else....principals, teachers, coaches, maintenance, cafeteria, etc. The superintendent may delegate much of that hiring to the principals. But that's a fundamental rule of school accreditation. Anyone who remembers Auburn and Jetgate remembers the hot water Auburn got into with SACS when trustees got involved in a potential hiring/firing scenario that was outside the scope of their role.
I have no problem with the mayor wanting to exact his ounce of flesh from someone over this. But get the right person(s).
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 11:10 am
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:00 am to lsu1919
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You’re not wrong. But they aren’t! And in return we get teenage pregnancy, etc. And what do we do about that? Ban abortions. So we get even more welfare dependency. Something’s gotta give.
So obviously STis and teen pregnancies declined with the advent of sexual education programs.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:05 am to wareaglepete
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The Responsibility of the Mayor/Manager
The mayor is the chief executive and administrative officer of the city in charge of carrying out the policies set by the council and seeing to it that local laws are enforced.
when you get a list of all of the arrests that have ever been made by a full time city mayor let me know. They are not normally commissioned officers. They do not have the power to arrest someone. In some municipalities they have zero control over the police department except possibly budgetary concerns.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:07 am to wareaglepete
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Did you see this part in the OP?
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"I've spoken to a judge this evening. She's already confirmed that.
I sure as hell wouldn't believe that just because the mayor throws that out there in his posturing. Let him name the judge and produce a document where the judge states that it's child pornography even if the pornography was never written.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 11:08 am
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:09 am to rmc
Again
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seeing to it that local laws are enforced.
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