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re: Massive W for Trump.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:58 am to Sassafrasology
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:58 am to Sassafrasology
I don't know much about Nick Fuentes, but I think the following dynamic is INSANE:
1) A right-wing pundit must be canceled and shouldn't even do an interview.
2) OTOH, it's okay for a radical left-wing Marxist Muslim to be elected Mayor of New York City.
Doesn't exactly seem like a level playing field to me.
1) A right-wing pundit must be canceled and shouldn't even do an interview.
2) OTOH, it's okay for a radical left-wing Marxist Muslim to be elected Mayor of New York City.
Doesn't exactly seem like a level playing field to me.
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:01 am to riccoar
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Of course this is pure hyperbole.
Would you like examples? There are pages of them.
Here are a few:
Zionist Organization of America (ZOA): withdrew from the Heritage foundation because they wouldn't call for Carlson to be cancelled
ADL: "Tucker Carlson's recent interview with Nick Fuentes is appalling. This comes as no surprise given Fuentes' and Carlson’s long history of peddling antisemitic lies.
ADL Again calling for Tucker to be deplatformed: "We couldn’t agree more. There is no excuse for platforming antisemitism. It didn't just start last week. And it doesn’t matter who might be the source — Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Heritage Foundation or Kevin Roberts. It’s just wrong. Absolutely, indisputably wrong."
ADL Calling for Trump to Condemn Tucker: Described the interview as "repellent" and part of Carlson's "years-long laundering of hate" by platforming Holocaust deniers and anti-Zionists. Urged President Trump and the GOP to condemn it, noting Trump's pro-Israel record could make his voice "very, very powerful."
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:02 am to SallysHuman
I finally read the whole interview.
Everyone should read it or watch it, I kept looking for the controversy and it simply is not there.
Each and every one of you that read commentary on it alone has been absolutely HAD.
Tucker pushed back on "The Jews" stuff pretty hard, NF's views, while a bit extreme, aren't completely off the wall. I didn't nod at everything he said by any means- but based on this ONE interview, I'd say the "controversy" is at least 90% contrived.
Everyone should read it or watch it, I kept looking for the controversy and it simply is not there.
Each and every one of you that read commentary on it alone has been absolutely HAD.
Tucker pushed back on "The Jews" stuff pretty hard, NF's views, while a bit extreme, aren't completely off the wall. I didn't nod at everything he said by any means- but based on this ONE interview, I'd say the "controversy" is at least 90% contrived.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:04 am to Jimbeaux
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I never said that Israel doesn’t lobby Congress of have influence. But so do the Saudis, and the other Muslim/Arab nations. It’s just stupid to think that Israel’s influence is any different than any other nation or group.
There is a difference.
It isn't beyond the pale to criticize or question these other lobbies. For some reason, this is different when it comes to Jewish lobbying.
Why is that?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:05 am to NC_Tigah
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The problem is not Tucker's choice to interview Fuentes, or anyone else. The problem is his choice not only to refuse to challenge their controversial views, but to agree with them.
This is the correct answer.
And it's not just the problem with Huckster, it's the problem with about 3/4 of this board.
What I have learned is that as long as it's in the name of hating Israel, you can get rightist populists to support a guy who celebrates the birthday of the biggest mass murderer of the 20th century.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:05 am to Jimbeaux
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Bigger than the teachers union? Bigger than the teamsters? Bigger than Big Pharma? Bigger than Wall Street? Bigger than Trial Lawyers? Bigger than Soros, Gates, etc?
Historically I believe the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the biggest lobby in DC, in terms of money spent on politicians.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:06 am to KCT
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I don't know much about Nick Fuentes, but I think the following dynamic is INSANE:
Its as simple as this: according to all of the groups calling for Tucker and anyone else to be cancelled its fine to openly criticize Trump, the US, conservatives and anything else. But if you criticize Israel you should be banned and are automatically anti-Semitic.
Why are they ok with criticizing the US but not a foreign nation?
And none of them will argue based on the pros and cons. Not Shapiro and not anyone in this thread.
Its all because they know they wont like how that objective debate goes so they have to cancel it before it begins by using the tactics of the progressive left so that people are afraid to objectively look at the situation and just accept that status quo.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:06 am to SallysHuman
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I assume you got your contextless quote from someone else's commentary.
And... it's WRONG.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Tucker apologized, for this btw
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:07 am to tide06
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Would you like examples? There are pages of them.
That is all hyperbolic bullshite... not YOU, but the statements you listed.
And there are far too many people lapping it up, believing it, rather that looking or listening for themselves.
It's very frustrating. EVERY BIT of pushback on this interview is second and third hand- probably because anyone that actually listened or read it knows there's no "there" there.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:09 am to tide06
quote:The ADL is horrible!
ADL
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:09 am to NC_Tigah
NC, you PROVED my point... TC did NOT say he. "hated them more than anyone".
Thank you.
Perhaps you can edit your previous post that misquoted Tucker.
Thank you.
Perhaps you can edit your previous post that misquoted Tucker.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:10 am to SallysHuman
quote:Look one post up
EVERY BIT of pushback on this interview is second and third hand-
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:10 am to BTROleMisser
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But muh Israel owns him!!!! REEEE!!! OMB!!! - JOOtards
I love when this is their argument.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:11 am to Sassafrasology
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Historically I believe the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the biggest lobby in DC, in terms of money spent on politicians.
You might be right in terms of dollars.
But does Jim Jeffries (a Christian republican from Ohio) fly a Chamber of Commerce flag in front of his congressional office? Because he has an Israeli flag along with other republicans. Is that not strange?
But according to AIPAC 150 US congressional reps have visited Israel in the last 24 months.
Why do 150 reps need to visit a country the size of NJ when almost none of them are Jewish? What the hell is going on?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:11 am to SallysHuman
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I didn't nod at everything he said by any means- but based on this ONE interview, I'd say the "controversy" is at least 90% contrived.
Yeah, bullshite.
Huckster Carlson rose to national prominence by tearing guests that he disagreed with a new butthole on Fox News, to a degree like no one else.
We're talking about people who supported BLM, opposed closing the border, wanted America to become socialists, etc. And he didn't limit himself to just what they said in that segment, he brought up things that they said elsewhere.
Fuentes celebrates Joseph Stalin's birthday and claims that women want to be raped. He's more of a bottom feeding piece of trash than any of those people that Huckster tore up on Fox, by orders of magnitude.
No honest person can really claim that he wasn't facilitating Fuentes based on his entire career schtick. It's like watching Mike Tyson carrying someone the distance without throwing a single signature uppercut and denying that he was on the take.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:12 am to wackatimesthree
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The problem is not Tucker's choice to interview Fuentes, or anyone else. The problem is his choice not only to refuse to challenge their controversial views, but to agree with them.quote:
This is the correct answer. And it's not just the problem with Huckster, it's the problem with about 3/4 of this board.
This is untrue.
Tucker does not agree with Israel or Jew hate... he pushed back on that SEVERAL times in the interview that I assume 3/4 of y'all reiterating this misinformation didn't bother to watch.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:14 am to NC_Tigah
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EVERY BIT of pushback on this interview is second and third hand-
quote:
Look one post up
Gee... how about one of yours? One you've since proven yourself wrong on.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:15 am to wackatimesthree
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No honest person can really claim that he wasn't facilitating Fuentes based on his entire career schtick. It's like watching Mike Tyson carrying someone the distance without throwing a single signature uppercut and denying that he was on the take.
Read the transcript or watch the interview.
Until then... you're just taking other people's talking points for your own.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:16 am to SallysHuman
NC is correct. There was a thread here. Tucker Carlson indeed said it. It was so bad. He walked it back. The discussion could then be based on his sincerity of his walking it back.
Fuentes was very well behaved in that interview with Tucker. BTW.
@Grok.
I have no dog in this argument. I think it is a purposely fueled with propaganda-- & subject to divide. If anything, I realize Tucker's reformed neocon leanings of which I happen to share-Go deeper than mine and sound-like, propaganda of Qatar.
i also don't believe the propaganda that Huckabee called out BiBi/Israel saying Christians are being mistreated in Israel...BiBi is no saint by any means, but a new PM could be far worse...
I will still listen to Tucker depending on his subject, but he isn't just some guy trying to heal things.
Fuentes was very well behaved in that interview with Tucker. BTW.
@Grok.
quote:I would like to kindly discuss how it is, that the United Nations who despises Israel and favors Iran (Look it up or ask Grok) Declared that Israel alone-committed genocide and starvation in Gaza-and everyone believed the United Nations whole cloth?
Yes, Tucker Carlson made a statement very close to the one described in your query. During a two-hour podcast interview with far-right podcaster Nick Fuentes (known for antisemitic and white nationalist views), Carlson expressed strong disdain for Christian Zionists—evangelical Christians who support Israel based on biblical interpretations of God's covenant with the Jewish people.
He framed their beliefs as a theological aberration and said he personally "dislike[s] them more than anybody" because it constitutes "Christian heresy" that offends him as a Christian.
Key Details
Date: The interview was recorded and released on October 28, 2025 (a Tuesday), and posted to Carlson's Tucker Carlson Network platform on X (formerly Twitter) and YouTube. It quickly amassed over 10 million views in the first 24 hours.
Context: The discussion covered U.S. foreign policy, Carlson's opposition to American aid for Israel amid the Israel-Hamas war, and critiques of neoconservatism. Fuentes raised concerns about Jewish influence in politics, prompting Carlson to pivot to non-Jewish figures he accused of being "seized by this brain virus" of uncritical Israel support.
He named specific prominent Christian Zionists as examples, emphasizing that their views infect the church and prioritize a foreign nation over core Christian doctrine.
The full episode is titled something along the lines of "Tucker Carlson Interviews Nick Fuentes" based on coverage, and clips went viral, sparking backlash from conservatives like U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee (whom Carlson named) and Sen. Ted Cruz.
Exact Quote and Surrounding Excerpt (transcribed from the video clip of the relevant segment, starting around the 0:21 mark in the widely shared 1:09 excerpt):"But then how do you explain [U.S. Ambassador to Israel] Mike Huckabee, [Sen.] Ted Cruz... I've known them all—George W. Bush, Karl Rove—all people who have been seized by this brain virus. And they're not Jewish. Most of them are self-described Christians. And then the Christian Zionists who are, well, Christian Zionists. Like, what is that? I can just say for myself, I dislike them more than anybody, you know, because it's Christian heresy. And I'm offended by that as a Christian."
Carlson elaborated that this "brain virus" leads Christians to back policies harming fellow believers (e.g., Israel's military actions in Gaza, which he claimed include bombing churches and killing Christians), calling it "insane" and contrary to faith. He contrasted it with his view of true Christianity, which he said requires judging people individually, not by group identity.
Aftermath and Partial Walk-Back
The remarks ignited a firestorm on the right, with critics accusing Carlson of antisemitism by proxy (via platforming Fuentes) and alienating evangelicals, who form a key GOP base. Huckabee posted on X: "Wasn’t aware that Tucker despises me." Others, like Erick Stakelbeck, highlighted biblical passages (e.g., Joel 3:1-2) supporting Christian Zionism.
On November 4, 2025, during an appearance on comedian Dave Smith's podcast, Carlson issued a partial apology, saying: "I did say something that I really regret... I said something to the effect of, ‘I despise Christian Zionists.’ And I’m just sorry that I said that, because I don’t... I was mad." He clarified he opposes the ideology but doesn't hate individuals, though he stood by calling it a "heresy." Media outlets like The Christian Post and Jewish Journal dismissed the apology as insincere "gaslighting," noting it came amid broader scrutiny of his Fuentes interview.
This incident highlights a growing rift in American conservatism over Israel, with Carlson positioning himself against "neocon" interventionism. For the full context, the episode is available on Carlson's X profile (@TuckerCarlson) and YouTube channel.
**Video**
I have no dog in this argument. I think it is a purposely fueled with propaganda-- & subject to divide. If anything, I realize Tucker's reformed neocon leanings of which I happen to share-Go deeper than mine and sound-like, propaganda of Qatar.
i also don't believe the propaganda that Huckabee called out BiBi/Israel saying Christians are being mistreated in Israel...BiBi is no saint by any means, but a new PM could be far worse...
I will still listen to Tucker depending on his subject, but he isn't just some guy trying to heal things.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 9:19 am
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:17 am to SallysHuman
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That is all hyperbolic bullshite... not YOU, but the statements you listed.
And that's been my major concern since I started paying any attention to this issue at all. I didnt care about Israel. I support Israel defending itself and hated the attacks against their civilians, it was horrible.
But if a spouse/BF/GF starts freaking out when you ask to see their phone its a major red flag.
Why are they freaking out about this so radically? People with clean records don't respond the way that lobby does when asked questions that are asked of literally every other interest group in American politics.
I mean they're freaking out as badly or worse than the LGBTQ lobby when people started questioning the gay porn stuff in elementary school libraries.
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