re: Massie on the Epstein victims: “It’s not their job to release the (perp) names.”

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Stop trotting out Lindsey... nobody likes him anyway and you know it!

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If he's hated so badly, why aren't they spending millions to primary him?

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If he's hated so badly, why aren't they spending millions to primary him?

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He is getting a primary opponent... dunno how that's going to work out.

The "they" you speak of aren't WeThePeople, unfortunately... and I say this as a resident of SC.

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He is getting a primary opponent... dunno how that's going to work out.

The "they" you speak of aren't WeThePeople, unfortunately... and I say this as a resident of SC.

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Getting a primary opponent doesn't mean anything. Everyone pretty much gets a primary opponent. My congressman has been the same for years, but every election he gets a primary opponent. I always vote for the primary opponent but it never matters because they have no money behind them.

But you see Trump and others spending millions on a primary opponent for Massie. Yet he at the same time praises Graham and will likely campaign for him to be elected again.

The most conservative members of congress are being attacked because they are the only actual opposition to the swamp. And they will use any bullshite excuse to do so.

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Now please answer why Massie chose to delay the CR with a discharge petition (which requires half the house to undue) this past year and not once during the last 4 years of Biden? Did he only get his "Epstein conviction" while Trump was the president? Why now and not earlier?

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Because he's a good congressmen.

And the reason he voted for the one during Bidens time was because it promised a 1% cut in spending across the board. He was one of about 150 republicans who voted for it, but for some reason the only bad vote was his.

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By the way, Massie joined several Democrats to make this move (think of how well he could have represented republicans if he'd done this during the last four years). Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment: Never speak evil of other republicans...it would seem that Massie and MTG have never heard of this.

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People who treat politics as a team sport are idiots. I don't give a shite about these kinds of things, I care about what they vote for.

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Because he's a good congressmen

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Cool, ignoring the moral issue you have for four years makes you a good congressman.

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People who treat politics as a team sport are idiots. I don't give a shite about these kinds of things, I care about what they vote for.

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Agree to disagree I suppose. Going alone without the party will result in nothing, but you'll have the moral victory in the end.

Question--would you say the Ds got more of what they wanted accomplished when Obama (Obamacare) and Biden (illegal immigrants everywhere) were in power vs. the Trump years as president?

You know how they did that--democrats stick together when in power. Massie, Paul and MTG won't be able to undo that damage (which they complained about) without all republicans on board.

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Yeah, let's attack Massie instead of the people who kidnapped children and the people who raped them.

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In what bizarro world is Massie the problem here? Massie has long pushed for transparency on the Epstein files. And this bill to release the files is the fruit of that effort. What the hell am I missing here?

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I don't hold people responsible for things you completely made up.

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The discharge procedure is something Massie could've done for years and only opted to use it (in conjuction with Ds) after Trump was president here's a link to help. LINK

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you don't give a shite about the constitution

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Guess I shouldn't have taken an oath to protect and defend...

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You both just want to rule over the people rather than protecting their rights and liberties

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The best way to protect liberties is to win elections and destroy communist policy and their candidates at every turn...which only happens if you hold the majority.

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So enjoy losing the next election since it's not conservatives you want to team up with

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We will lose the next election...because we didn't team up now to stop things like illegal immigration counting in the census and general in-fighting between republicans.

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Because your policies are shite and nobody actually wants them

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I haven't even commented on policy, bet we're closer than you think on those.

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Go frick yourself

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Strong comeback...

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The discharge procedure is something Massie could've done for years and only opted to use it (in conjuction with Ds) after Trump was president here's a link to help. LINK

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Just looks like an article complaining because of how often he votes No.

I want congressman who vote no 99% of the time. Because it means they are probably following the constitution.

If you are mad about the Epstien files getting released, I do not give a frick.

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Guess I shouldn't have taken an oath to protect and defend...

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Taking an oath is not the same thing as actually keeping it.

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The best way to protect liberties is to win elections and destroy communist policy and their candidates at every turn...which only happens if you hold the majority.

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Neocons ARE a communist party. Their roots are in marxism. They are Trotsky followers from the 1920s Russia. Anti-Stalin communists that were expelled from Russia in the 1920s. They formed in the US shortly after and were part of the democrat party until the late 1960s. They then got upset with the democrat party after LBJ because they wanted a more aggressive foreign policy than what the left was then shifting towards.

They are from areas like Ukraine and Poland. That's why they have such huge interests in these countries now, and why they want all this war with Russia. It's also where the interest in Israel comes from, as that's where many of them migrated as well after WW2.

Since then, neocons have infiltrated the GOP, gaining power in the 80s significantly while former CIA head George Bush was in power. And the party has been hijacked from the conservatives ever since by these neocons.

Of course the democrats are marxists as well. But more of the Leninism type rather than the Trotskyism. The differences between them are rather minor. They agree on state control over as much as they can take from the American people, then bicker about what to force on the people.

So have fun with those team votes because you don't realize they are both playing the same game.

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We will lose the next election...because we didn't team up now to stop things like illegal immigration counting in the census and general in-fighting between republicans.

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Trump and neocons started the infighting because they hate conservatives. You're spending millions attacking the most conservative members of congress instead of democrats.

But again, that is preferable to the uniparty. They'd rather democrats win to keep the Marxist policies going rather than a real conservatives who would actually cut the majority of the spending, the departments and so on. They will both do anything to keep an actual conservative or outsider from winning. I thought Trump was going to be that guy, but nope.

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I haven't even commented on policy, bet we're closer than you think on those.

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You follow rhetoric rather than what people actually do.

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Just looks like an article complaining because of how often he votes No

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Just refuting your claim that I "made it up".

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If you are mad about the Epstien files getting released, I do not give a frick

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I never mentioned being upset about the files being released.

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Taking an oath is not the same thing as actually keeping it.

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Being a satanist must be hard (see I could easily accuse you of things without knowing, doesn't' make it true and certainly doesn't make the argument any stronger)

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Neocons ARE a communist party.

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I would argue that they are more crony capitalist who make fortunes off of the war complex....but I can see your point, but I disagree as they don't want the government to take over the industrial war complex as much as they want the money spent on it.

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So have fun with those team votes because you don't realize they are both playing the same game

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So the nation is lost by this logic. If not, please tell me what must be done to save it?

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You're spending millions attacking the most conservative members of congress instead of democrats

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Pretty sure I've not spent remotely that close on attacking anyone (or anything else for that matter).

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You follow rhetoric rather than what people actually do.

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No, I think more about policy and winning strategies as I don't want anymore lefty wins which erodes freedoms quicker than anything else.


***ETA--I stated I never mentioned it (about Epstein files) just to clarify, I never mentioned being upset about them, truly I don't care and I don't think those files will illuminate anything.

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The American people are the victims.

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BS.