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Mark Dice on GM strike. No wonder plants are moving to Mexico
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:41 am
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Something like $63 an hour with benefits, and they think they should be getting paid more lmfao. This is for jobs without a college degree at GM! And they pay more than Ford and Fiat Chrysler!
Something like $63 an hour with benefits, and they think they should be getting paid more lmfao. This is for jobs without a college degree at GM! And they pay more than Ford and Fiat Chrysler!
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:44 am to Parmen
When they closed the Shreveport GM plant down everyone that got laid off complained about not being able to find jobs, but refused to work for anything less than $25+/hr.
Totally delusional.
Totally delusional.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 8:45 am
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:46 am to Parmen
My understanding is the employees are paying like 4% of their healthcare plan and GM wanted to move more onto the employee... I do not know how much more but apparently it was the straw that broke the camel's back...
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:52 am to The Maj
Time to break the union. Right to work states finna eat.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:53 am to fjlee90
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Time to break the union.
Oh, I agree with that...
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:55 am to The Maj
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My understanding is the employees are paying like 4% of their healthcare plan and GM wanted to move more onto the employee... I do not know how much more but apparently it was the straw that broke the camel's back...
with rising healthcare costs, every year it seems my company increases the employee contribution and our deductible/co-pays go up....
why do they think they are special?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:58 am to tigeraddict
Because the union told them they were.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:58 am to tigeraddict
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why do they think they are special?
Because their union convinces them if they stand together, they will get what they want...
I totally agree with your assessment of the situation, if the strike is over increasing their contribution for their healthcare (which is probably better than most American's employer provided healthcare benefits to start with), then I think the strike is pretty damn stupid...
However, I have seen local strikes (UAW) over a contract where the co-pay was going from $15 to $20 and the percentage the employee was paying was going from 8% to 10% of cost...
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:39 am to Parmen
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Something like $63 an hour with benefits,
I love how the dildo being interviewed feels it necessary to emphasize that the $63 is WITH BENEFITS as if that somehow strengthens the argument that the workers are being paid too little. It's like every time we hear teacher belly-aching about pay (otherwise know as every day). The NEVER take into account the great retirement benefits and other benefits that many private sector jobs don't offer.
You can bet your bottom dollar the idea to "strike" proposed by Democrats. From a practical standpoint, this is not a great time to strike as the worker's leverage is continuously decreasing. Many can be replaced by automation and they know GM can outsource those jobs like they have been doing. But they also know Trump doesn't want to see GM conduct the massive layoffs/automation that they have the leverage to enact.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:49 am to The Maj
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Because their union convinces them if they stand together, they will get what they want...
And when they get that, what will they want? More.
Just like organized crime and just like politicians.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:14 am to Alt26
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You can bet your bottom dollar the idea to "strike" proposed by Democrats. From a practical standpoint, this is not a great time to strike as the worker's leverage is continuously decreasing. Many can be replaced by automation and they know GM can outsource those jobs like they have been doing. But they also know Trump doesn't want to see GM conduct the massive layoffs/automation that they have the leverage to enact.
Union people are idiots
I was in the AFL-CIO 22 years ago and to be able to witness what people asked for in negotiations was incredible.
There were older employees that wanted to strike in order to get their spouses birthday off. I had to shake my head.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:21 am to Parmen
quote:Which works out to $131K a year for jobs that don't require a college degree. Even once you take out the amount GM pays for benefits out of that $131K and only look at the cash salary, its still north of $100K/year.
$63 an hour with benefits
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:22 am to Parmen
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Something like $63 an hour with benefits
A 40 hr week that’s about 130k a year.
For 46,000 striking employees that’s over 6 billion a year in labor costs.
That doesn’t include cost of benefits such as healthcare, 401k, and pensions.
No wonder trucks cost 60k and up
shite is ridiculous
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:24 am to Parmen
So after benefits they are making like 25-30 bucks an hour. That's not rich
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:24 am to MrLarson
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Union people are idiots
I was in the AFL-CIO 22 years ago and to be able to witness what people asked for in negotiations was incredible.
There were older employees that wanted to strike in order to get their spouses birthday off. I had to shake my head.
Unions need to be broken up. They are a monopoly just like Google. I'd rake them both over the coals.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:28 am to tigeraddict
quote:Don't blame it on your company. Start with the socialist bastards in D.C.
with rising healthcare costs, every year it seems my company increases the employee contribution and our deductible/co-pays go up....
why do they think they are special?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:37 am to The Maj
quote:The last strike they had 60 Minutes ran a story saying the cost of Viagra alone in the UAW was adding $4k to the price of every vehicle they make.
My understanding is the employees are paying like 4% of their healthcare plan and GM wanted to move more onto the employee... I do not know how much more but apparently it was the straw that broke the camel's back...
Think about that! You're enabling some sick old UAW democrat financial supporter to get it up to get it on with either his fat ugly wife (or another guy whatever floats their boat) or some drugged out whore they are paying. $4k on every vehicle pricetag! And then you're paying taxes to register that $4k overpriced vehicle!
ETA: Here's(ConsumerAffairs) a page that says it's $1500/vehicle for Viagra alone. "GM provides health care for 1.1 million employees, retirees and dependents and is the world's largest private purchaser of Viagra."
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 10:44 am
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:41 am to tigeraddict
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with rising healthcare costs, every year it seems my company increases the employee contribution and our deductible/co-pays go up.... why do they think they are special?
Military Active Duty Retired were told upon service entry that retired military personnel would have free healthcare for life for themselves and their spouse. Despite that promise, the US Govt increases the cost of medical insurance and increases co-pays annually.
That's tough, because on Civvie Street, nobody cares about that.
So the Unions should tread carefully WRT striking to obtain pay and benefit too far above what others receive.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:46 am to Champagne
I was in and out of GM assembly plants for years, and can tell you without a doubt, that the UAW union should be abolished.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:56 am to burke985
quote:How much do you think benefits cost? GM is giving them good benefits which aren't cheap, but I don't think benefits alone are costing GM $60K+ a year for one employee. Health insurance is by far the most expensive benefit and that should probably be costing GM between $15-20K/year.
So after benefits they are making like 25-30 bucks an hour. That's not rich
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