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Manchin caves on so called voting right bill

Posted on 9/11/21 at 9:59 am
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23482 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 9:59 am
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While the bill largely hews to Manchin’s original outline, including a loose form of voter identification

lol lol lol

Senate Democrats are nearing an agreement on a compromise version of their sweeping voting rights bill, the For The People Act, to be able to secure the support of Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), the lone Democrat to oppose the original bill.[/quote]

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The compromise bill trims the original For The People Act to meet the outline of compromise legislation Manchin put forward in June, according to sources. It includes most of the voter access expansions and election administration provisions in the original bill, including mandatory early voting, automatic voter registration and other key voting rights elements that were originally taken from the late John Lewis’ Voter Empowerment Act.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:06 am to
This bill is the dems’ ONLY shot at salvaging the 2022 midterms, but I still think they lose.

The dems would risk potential disaster if they were to blow up the filibuster and still lose…though the dem president would just veto everything.

Then the SCOTUS would have definite legal grounds to overrule this blatantly unconstitutional power grab.
But John Roberts tho.

There are legitimate hurdles.
I just don’t think it passes.

Edit:
I’m not sure how it’s being handled, but the piece that allows congress to appoint “neutral” litigators to oversee boundaries being redrawn is nothing but a way to ensure only democrats can gerrymander.
This post was edited on 9/11/21 at 10:21 am
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:07 am to
So I'm clear...States just give up their voting procedure laws/rights with a partisan vote in Congress?

Seems there are some things that kind of deserve more than that.

If so...thanks Georgia.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:08 am to
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This bill is the dems’ ONLY shot at salvaging the 2022 midterms, but I still think they lose.

There's around a zero percent chance they lose in 2022.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105362 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:08 am to
Did anyone really believe Manchin would abstain from a yeah vote. Dems will control elections and essentially have permanent rule.
This post was edited on 9/11/21 at 10:24 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73403 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:09 am to
It's what he does. Play moderate vote proggy
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:10 am to
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Did anyone really believe Manchineel would abstain from a yeah vote. Dems will control elections and essentially have permanent rule.

It's going to be really interesting to see how the media spins the fact that dems will have a constant majority yet a constant 30% approval rating
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19006 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:10 am to
Manchin is done and he knows it. Barely won last time and would certainly lose to Morrissey in a rematch today. He'll cave to anything but he'll have to cave to ending filibuster for his vote here to mean anything
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:12 am to


Good point
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12123 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:13 am to
If you lived through the 2020 elections and think that the number of votes has anything to do with who wins the election There is nothing I can tell you.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8798 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:16 am to
So, no reason to vote if it's rigged for the left to win.

All hope is lost so, sit on your hands and keep your mouths shut.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105362 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:16 am to
No doubt. Now they are looking to control any audits being done. Take away the states running their elections.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:18 am to
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Manchin caves on so called voting right bill



= Once again West Virginia looks like fools for electing a Democrat for senator.

Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
3892 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:19 am to
If you don’t own land, you can’t vote.


What is so hard about this?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90409 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:22 am to
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States just give up their voting procedure laws/rights with a partisan vote in Congress?


I actually don’t think this bill is even constitutional but I’m sure SCOTUS will rubber stamp it
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105362 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:25 am to
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if it's rigged




That’s funny
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8798 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:31 am to
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That’s funny


Yeah, it's been a real comedy show since Clinton.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59445 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:31 am to
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thanks Georgia

Look, a-hole, we had no idea our governor was a CCP plant until after the election. Before that, our option was him or gap-toothed Mammy. Not exactly a rising tide of patriotic sentiment coming from either of them
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:31 am to
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I actually don’t think this bill is even constitutional but I’m sure SCOTUS will rubber stamp it


Yeah just got to hope it gets tied up long enough to have 22 go thru, and somehow the repubs can find a way to delay it for 24. Then hopefully it's reversed.

Politics in this country has def come to royally suck. Problem with the whole "needs to evolve" mentality the left purposely pushes. Nothing stable when the rock foundation is chipped away at.
Posted by Issa Honk
Let's Go Brandon
Member since Apr 2021
1081 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 10:34 am to
Great

we are fricked
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