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re: Manchin and Schumer agree on spending bill with 350 billion to fight climate change

Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:56 am to
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3445 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:56 am to
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I don’t know how to tar and feather someone but it’s time.

It’s gonna take a lot of tar and a lot of chicken feathers to divvy up between 535 Congresspeople. But I’ll donate to the cause.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62368 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:18 am to
Taxing companies like this going to increase the exodus to China
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
3681 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 4:23 am to
Unfortunately cockroaches are the only thing that would survive that most likely. So the politicians would not only live but thrive after most likely.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8491 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 5:03 am to
Midterm buyout. They got to give their donors some of the kickbacks they were promised.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3031 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 5:43 am to
Did they finally get some blackmail charms on him?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24702 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 5:46 am to
Inflation expansion pack
Unlocked!
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16152 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:00 am to
Establishment has weaponized wording.

State media will pump out bullshite 24/7, labeling everyone who disagrees with that bill as people who don't want the inflation reduced.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:04 am to
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They’re despicable human beings

It is not even humans.

"“It’s like two brothers from different mothers, I guess. He gets pissed off, I get pissed off, and we’ll go back and forth. He basically put out statements, and the dogs came after me again,” Manchin said in an interview on Wednesday. “We just worked through it.”

It's fckg DOGS! Some dogs are running the economy and country.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:07 am to
So it increases taxes and spending
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26112 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:14 am to
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this bunch of nonsense

Hurricanes Laura and Ida in Louisiana; hurricanes Maria, Irma and Dorian in the Caribbean; hurricane Michael in Florida; horrific wildfires throughout the West, and floods in St Louis and throughout the Midwest, and incessant heat and drought in Texas and Oklahoma... all these record breaking events, and you still call it a "bunch of nonsense"?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61102 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:18 am to
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Hurricanes Laura and Ida in Louisiana; hurricanes Maria, Irma and Dorian in the Caribbean; hurricane Michael in Florida; horrific wildfires throughout the West, and floods in St Louis and throughout the Midwest, and incessant heat and drought in Texas and Oklahoma... all these record breaking events, and you still call it a "bunch of nonsense"?


Please give us more context than just "they broke records".

Which records did they break? How do they look in terms of the complete historical record of the climate?
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:36 am to
Those things happened before climate change was invented.
Posted by captron
Occupied Sillycon Valley
Member since Jul 2018
404 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:49 am to
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The country will end up in default if they get their way.


That's part of the plan.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7104 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:50 am to
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Hurricanes Laura and Ida in Louisiana; hurricanes Maria, Irma and Dorian in the Caribbean; hurricane Michael in Florida; horrific wildfires throughout the West, and floods in St Louis and throughout the Midwest, and incessant heat and drought in Texas and Oklahoma... all these record breaking events, and you still call it a "bunch of nonsense"?

While I have always thought all the man made climate change bullshite was bullshite, it appears I have lost that political battle. So now that we fixed it, can we move on and agree it’s no longer an issue?
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26112 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:59 am to
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Which records did they break?

Take a look a Hurricane Dorian which PARKED over Abacos and Grand Bahama islands for 36 hours on Sept. 1-2, 2019, as a Cat 5 hurricane! No one had ever observed anything comparable to that, and the resulting level of catastrophic destruction. These islands are still far from rebuilt, 3 years late.

Bahamas Prime Minister Hubert Minnis blames the Western developed nations, specifically the US, for fouling the atmosphere and permitting the conditions which caused the catastrophic storm. It's clear that what is record-breaking, is this level of outrage in the developing countries for the profligacy and excesses of the rich developed nations.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68025 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:04 am to
None of that is new. The Earth has always warmed or cooled. It is never static. These are just dollars wasted in hopes that much of it returns to DNC coffers in the future.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98436 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:11 am to
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350 billion to fight climate change


Like holding back a flood with a broom.

The climate has changed throughout the paleoclimatic history of this planet. It has changed in just the last 11k years (or, there was a mile thick sheet of ice on top of Chicago I didn't notice when I went a few years ago)? It will continue to change.

So tired of this horseshite
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68025 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:13 am to
Why might this bill not have to pass a fibuster?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27469 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:16 am to
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Why might this bill not have to pass a fibuster?


I think they will be able to get 10 Republicans to sign on without much issue.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:29 am to
West Virginia kept re-electing Jennings Randolph to the Senate from 1958-1985. He was the last New Dealer. They also kept Robert Byrd in the Senate from 1959 until he died in 2010. Don’t forget Jay Rockefeller who served from 1985 to 2015. Manchin fits in nicely with this bunch. Don’t count on WVA turning out Manchin. It’s more likely that he steps down because he got his payoff and doesn’t care.
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