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Low income 4th grade reading scores

Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:28 pm
Posted by anc
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:28 pm
Looks like Louisiana and Mississippi making strides.

Alabama jumps from 49th to 27th
Louisiana from 42nd to 11th
Mississippi from 40th to 2nd.

We are a generation away from the South being the only place companies want to relocate.

This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:29 pm to
The rest of the country fell off the map. Mississippi may have just stayed the same.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:32 pm to
Reminds me of a Days of Thunder quote. I'm not going faster, the rest of the field is just slowing down. Remote learning was a disaster, and the south returned to in person sooner than the rest of the country
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:42 pm to
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Looks like Louisiana and Mississippi making strides.


No. 808 is correct here.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1206 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:45 pm to
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The rest of the country fell off the map.


Almost like closing schools in large portions of the country for 1-2 years was a bad idea eh?

Friends of mine that live outside of Seattle didn't send their kids to a physical school building for 18 months. They were closed for COVID and digital only the entire time. Insanity.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:45 pm to
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The rest of the country fell off the map. Mississippi may have just stayed the same.


And Florida has dedicated reading intervention especially at low age groups. Any kids that are in the bottom 5 pct get intervention and reading group. That said, there are still a ton of kids that need serious help that don't get it. My wife is a reading intervention teacher in the state.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:46 pm to
We destroyed kid’s learning to satisfy the woke among us. Those kids are going to face long-term effects. They might never fully recover from it.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:47 pm to

So the core of states that have conservatives running things and didn't close their schools for 1 to 2 years performed better and made up ground?

Whodathunkit? It's almost like pragmatic people warned of this happening when kids were kept out of the classroom for extended periods
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101256 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:48 pm to
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Louisiana from 42nd to 11th


These schools gotta be cheating up a fricking storm on these tests.

There's no way we REALLY jumped that much. No freaking way.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:50 pm to
Reading scores can improve dramatically if the kids are given something that is actually fun and interesting to read.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:50 pm to
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There's no way we REALLY jumped that much. No freaking way.


Low income kids are mostly in cities in many states. Many city kids didn’t go to school for over a year and a half. A fourth grader could have conceivably only been in school for roughly half their schooling.

Your state jumped over the bodies of kids left behind.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:52 pm to
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Reading scores can improve dramatically if the kids are given something that is actually fun and interesting to read.


bullshite. They just need to get them some phonemic awareness and get interventions to struggling kids. Learning to read is intrinsically interesting for kids.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101256 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:54 pm to
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Low income kids are mostly in cities in many states. Many city kids didn’t go to school for over a year and a half. A fourth grader could have conceivably only been in school for roughly half their schooling.

Your state jumped over the bodies of kids left behind.



Louisiana wasn't doing dramatically better than 30 some odd states with regard to that shite, especially in our low income city areas.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19352 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:56 pm to
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Bull shite. They just need to get them some phonemic awareness and get interventions to struggling kids. Learning to read is intrinsically interesting for kids.


I don't think so. Feed 'em the reading equivalent of stewed spinach and they will just groan.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
33999 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:58 pm to
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Mississippi may have just stayed the same.


To be fair, they have put in place a system that works (and works well).

It is based on hard work and accountability.

Credit where it’s due.

As for Louisiana, the implementation of literacy programs at the elementary and middle school level (complete with “reading coaches”) seems to be paying off as well.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
33999 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:59 pm to
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Reading scores can improve dramatically if the kids are given something that is actually fun and interesting to read.


quote:

bullshite. They just need to get them some phonemic awareness and get interventions to struggling kids. Learning to read is intrinsically interesting for kids.


Why not both?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111495 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:01 pm to
“Interesting texts” is usually code for “culturally relevant texts.”
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111495 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:02 pm to
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As for Louisiana, the implementation of literacy programs at the elementary and middle school level (complete with “reading coaches”) seems to be paying off as well.


Those are good strategies. They’re not groundbreaking. But they work.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29207 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:03 pm to
Hell yeah

LFG Mississippi . That is seriously a great accomplishment for everyone involved
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13290 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:03 pm to
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Louisiana from 42nd to 11th


These schools gotta be cheating up a fricking storm on these tests.

There's no way we REALLY jumped that much. No freaking way.


Thanks YA.

You guys realize the other students were learning at a higher rate and continued to do so, its not like they were standing still. For Louisiana to skyrocket past them. Tell you what you need to do. Pull the papers themselves. Guarantee you will see a dozen or so questions where EVERY child got the answer correct.....and many eraser marks on those same questions. Hmm wonder who changed them????

Same nonsense happened some years ago when they tried to pay bonuses based on merit. Even had the dumber kids tell their parents it was a teacher holiday and not to come to school on that day. Some were giving verbal tests to kids due to "visual disabilities" and then ask cup is to a) fork b) turkey or c) SAAAAUUUUUCCCCCEEERR.

Seriusly the aforementioned is what was happening in the schools.

Course now the testing center is woke as well so no one will look into it.
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