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Looks like JBE is going to veto the budget

Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14472 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:06 pm
Got to keep the pain and fear at a maximum.

Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36129 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:13 pm to
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Got to keep the hospitals and nursing homes open.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14472 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:19 pm to
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Got to keep the hospitals and nursing homes open.


In that case, he should not veto the budget since there are no cuts to hospitals and nursing homes in it.

Or is there some subtle sarcasm I am missing?
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:21 pm to
Shut the whole thing down. That way they can't steal any more.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126832 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:25 pm to
I received 11 identical emails from LSU this morning within a span of 45 minutes asking me to contact my legislators and ask them to support keeping a half-cent sales tax increase of the expiring one cent "temporary" sales tax in the special session next week in order to fully fund TOPS and not cut LSU's budget.

Let me repeat that: ELEVEN identical emails from the LSU Alumni Association!
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17401 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:31 pm to
Burn it to the ground...shut it down!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94617 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:33 pm to
I’ve gotten tired of the Chicken Little bullshite out of LSU.

They want their funding? Put their legislative power to work to kill lesser colleges in the state and absorb their funding. Failing that they can frick off.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:57 pm to
seems like he should sit on it for the first week or so of special session
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22927 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:59 pm to
That's what I thought. I read they were cutting TOPS down to only cover 70% tuition so that they could keep some funding for Medicaid
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25866 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:03 pm to
Doesn't impact the DOTD so don't care.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14472 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:04 pm to
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seems like he should sit on it for the first week or so of special session


That would be the WORST think he can do. If he is going to veto it, do it asap and remove doubt.

The problem is that the special session is only about 14 days long. And it takes a minimum of 6 days to pass a bill (3 readings in both chambers). So if they are advancing a supplemental bill and he vetoes the original bill it could screw things up.

Though I guess they could amend the supplemental bill to deal with all of it.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32498 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:04 pm to
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They want their funding? Put their legislative power to work to kill lesser colleges in the state and absorb their funding. Failing that they can frick off.

AMEN. The only thing that has grown at LSU is the administration. It's time to cut worthless degree paths, and the degree paths that lead to employments need to be audited. There is no reason someone who is going for English Education needs to take 5 foreign languages other than to prop up the foreign language enrollment numbers. Its a scam.Its taking students longer and longer to graduate due to BS classes in their schedule and some professors only teaching 1 or 2 classes.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
43995 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:19 pm to
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They want their funding? Put their legislative power to work to kill lesser colleges in the state and absorb their funding. Failing that they can frick off.

Dude, that's not the problem.

The problem is that their academic endowment is embarrassingly small - the smallest in the SEC by far. If people don't want to give the university willingly, as happens in ALL other conference schools, they've got to get it from somewhere.

People in this state are so fricking stupid. They give all their spare money to the athletic department, and none to the academic side. Then they bitch and moan when the university is at risk of closing due to lack of funds that their precious football season may get cancelled.



The academic side of the university matters.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:21 pm to
Legalize pot and sports betting and all of this shite would be solved.
Posted by Topcat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2005
439 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:22 pm to
What happens if he vetoes the budget and the legislature does not pass a new one in the special session? Does that mean all funding is shut down or are there certain departments that will keep operating? Is no budget as dire as it sounds or is the shutdown limited?

I for one would like to see a lot of state employees out of a job, but there are some that are necessary.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94617 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:26 pm to
State employees won’t get fired if this happens.

At worst they do mandatory furloughs of one day a week until money is freed up, under the general idea of “make it so inconvenient to use government services that people pressure their reps to pass a new budget.”
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:43 pm to
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That would be the WORST think he can do. If he is going to veto it, do it asap and remove doubt.

The problem is that the special session is only about 14 days long.

Strongly disagree. He can leave it hanging over Ways & Means and the House Chamber as a threat to get shite moving, and if they don't, then veto.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19306 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:47 pm to
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Put their legislative power to work to kill lesser colleges in the state and absorb their funding


Being an outsider I agree.

I have yet to see why there needs to be three full public universities (Grambling, La Tech, and ULM) in the same geographical space as DFW has, with a total population maybe 2/3 that of Arlington. While we have only four full public universities in all of DFW (North Texas, Texas Woman's, UT Dallas, and UT Arlington).
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126832 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:26 pm to
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when the university is at risk of closing
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14472 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:45 pm to
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What happens if he vetoes the budget and the legislature does not pass a new one in the special session? Does that mean all funding is shut down or are there certain departments that will keep operating? Is no budget as dire as it sounds or is the shutdown limited?


Honestly no one is certain. Best guess is that federally funded programs would keep running, and for a short period other items would still continue to function.

There would probably be another special session.

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