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Looks like at least some Euros are waking-up from the bloat of the welfare state: Germany

Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10416 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:00 pm
WSJ

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A Politician Speaks the Unspeakable
Germany’s Friedrich Merz says the current welfare state isn’t affordable.
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No, we don’t mean some racial or sexual crudity. Those obstacles in politics were breached long ago. We’re referring to something far more taboo in modern Western democracies: admitting that the size of the modern welfare state is no longer affordable.

Friedrich Merz, the German Chancellor, said at a Christian Democratic Union conference on Saturday that “the welfare state that we have today can no longer be financed with what we produce in the economy.”

Thank you, Chancellor, for this burst of candor. Mr. Merz is doing what no one else in the top ranks of Western politics seems willing to do, which is broach the fundamental dilemma of the modern West. Nations have built welfare and entitlement states that are so large they have outstripped the ability of slow-growing economies to pay for them. Yet because the entitlement cushion is so broad and reaches deep into the middle class, it has become nearly impossible to reform.

This is true among conventional politicians of the left and right. But it’s also true of the supposed radicals of the populist right. From Marine Le Pen in France to the U.K.’s Nigel Farage, the AfD in Germany and Donald Trump, the populists dodge difficult reforms of the broken welfare state.

They campaign against immigration, or foreign trade, but they won’t tell voters the truth about the benefits government provides that are driving ever-higher deficits and debt—along with slower economic growth. Republicans in Congress barely succeeded recently in passing modest and much-needed reforms in Medicaid.


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Posted by CrimsonJazz
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:39 pm to
If he didn't mention that the price tag of the welfare state has gone up exponentially due to rampant immigration, then this is only half a win at best.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:19 pm to
Someone has to eventually quit sugarcoating it and tell the Boomers "Listen, Hans...if you want to keep getting your pension check and healthcare, then Achmed and his family have to go."
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:29 pm to
They gonna fire up some power plants?

Their economy is headed for three straight years of contraction with energy being the #1 driving cause.




Just for funsies let’s watch them laugh off Trump’s warning that they’re too dependent on Russian gas…





Posted by LSUbest
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Member since Aug 2007
16503 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 4:06 pm to
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Germans who are employed are required to pay into the government pension system.
This mandatory public pension insurance, known as Gesetzliche Rentenversicherung (GRV), is funded by contributions from both employees and employers, with each party paying half of the total rate.
The contribution rate is 18.6% of the employee's gross income, split equally between the employee (9.3%) and the employer (9.3%).
This system is a cornerstone of Germany's social security framework and is designed to provide a basic income guarantee for retirees.


Not really welfare if you have to pay into it.

And denying them the benefits that the government gave to illegals is theft.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10416 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 4:10 pm to
Do you think that is the only entitlement or are you being obtuse?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16503 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 4:22 pm to
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Do you think that is the only entitlement or are you being obtuse?


It's their money, yes they are entitled to it.

You tell me what "entitlement" they did not pay for.

Do you think the government makes their own money or are you being obtuse?
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10416 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 4:28 pm to
Good grief. The list of German entitlement programs is long and easily searchable on Google. From healthcare, unemployment, parental allowance, supplemental child support, and on and on.

It's not that they pay nothing into the system, but that far more is going out than in...and it is unsustainable. This is not the "news". Everyone has known this for some time. The "news" is that you have a major party leader openly stating it in a quasi socialist state.

To be fair, I've concluded you are not being obtuse.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 4:32 pm to
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To be fair, I've concluded you are not being obtuse.


No, I'm mad as hell.
I'm ready to twist some peanuts off of shoulders because that's the plan for us too.

None of those programs were funded by anyone other than the taxpayers that they are now going to deny or reduce benefits to.

And none of those taxpayers voted to give their money to illegal immigrants or to allow politicians to steal from the fund.
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