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re: Libertarian's job is to give Democrats the wins
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:52 pm to Hayekian serf
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:52 pm to Hayekian serf
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. I vote for someone who won’t take away any
Exactly.
Neither party cares about freedom as its just something that gets in the way of their authoritarian dreams.
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:55 pm to GhostOfFreedom
If we were in a parliamentary system, third and fourth parties would be a force and worth looking at. We don't have a parliamentary system.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:59 pm to troyt37
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But to imply that they are as bad as marxist democrats is equally as stupid. Look at where we are after just 2 years of marxist democrat control, vs where we were with Trump.
There is so much wrong with this......
It doesn't get much more Marxist than the Patriot Act and the COVID lockdowns. It doesn't get much more Marxist than the '08 bailout or the COVID bailout.
Trump had the easiest job in the world on the economy. He deregulated and then demanded that the Fed keep interest rates at zero while artificially inflating the market. In fairness, this is what Obama did as well (except the deregulation part). In the end, we are paying for decades of shitty fiscal policy by both parties. They are equally bad for anyone that has fiscal responsibility and civil liberties as their two core key issues.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:00 pm to Hayekian serf
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I vote for someone who won’t have any say in the matter either way
FIFY
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:02 pm to Auburn1968
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If we were in a parliamentary system, third and fourth parties would be a force and worth looking at. We don't have a parliamentary system.
Does Britain have a Parliamentary system? If so what are the 3rd and 4th parties that are worth looking into over there? You have the Conservative party and the Labour party, name the others please.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:09 pm to Aubie Spr96
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They are equally bad for anyone that has fiscal responsibility and civil liberties as their two core key issues.
Show me all the people in jail because Trump or Bush used the FBI as their personal political goon squad. Show me the illegal investigation and spying on the opposition candidate for president. Show me all the DAs who ignore enforcing the law because white middle class people are the ones breaking it.
Fiscally they both suck, no question. The left is WAY more authoritarian these days and it’s not even close.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:12 pm to Flats
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Fiscally they both suck, no question
When the economy crashes, nothing else will matter.
I have no faith in politics. I'll stand or fall without them. Anyone trusting either party to make your life better...
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Anyone trusting either party to make your life better...
I don’t see anybody doing that but the gimmedat class at both ends of the economic spectrum.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:19 pm to Aubie Spr96
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It doesn't get much more Marxist than the Patriot Act
And if you had to pick one, which party do you think would abolish the Patriot Act? Remember how the marxist democrat house slipped the PA extension into the emergency funding CR in 2019? I member.
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and the COVID lockdowns.
Remind me again which party was all about the lockdowns? I'm pretty sure that conservatives across the country were raising hell about the government overreach. Even some republicans were raising red flags over it. How about this: Would you rather have been in Republican Florida for the Covid debacle, or Democrat Michigan?
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Trump had the easiest job in the world on the economy.
I'd say he did a pretty good job with it, considering. Would you rather have the Trump economy, or the Democrat economy you have now? We can go over the numbers if you'd like, but if you need to, then there's no use in having this conversation with you anyway.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Typical Trumpite.
Fat, lazy, needy and has no concept of economics.
Who the frick you think you're talking to?
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:34 pm to Aubie Spr96
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They are equally bad for anyone that has fiscal responsibility and civil liberties as their two core key issues.
If someone's key issue isn't exterminating communism and Marxism out of American political discourse, then I don't care. That needs to be the number one focus right now. Deal with that, then we can start working on other shite.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:39 pm to troyt37
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And if you had to pick one, which party do you think would abolish the Patriot Act?
Or a more immediate concern, which party do you think will use it to go after political opponents?
Some of these criticisms are legit, but they tard it up with the "there's zero difference" bit. I don't know how anybody remotely concerned about government's abuse of power can say that with a straight face in 2022. If the leftists aren't punished at the ballot box for it they're going to double and triple down with this shite.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:42 pm to VADawg
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If someone's key issue isn't exterminating communism and Marxism out of American political discourse, then I don't care. That needs to be the number one focus right now. Deal with that, then we can start working on other shite.
Well said! The rest of it is re-arranging the chairs on the Titanic. One wonders what libertarians think will happen to taxpayer funded welfare when marxist democrats have 90% of the people on it as a way of mandating their marxist socialist agenda.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:48 pm to bigDgator
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Does Britain have a Parliamentary system? If so what are the 3rd and 4th parties that are worth looking into over there? You have the Conservative party and the Labour party, name the others please.
https://members.parliament.uk/parties/Commons
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:49 pm to lsu777
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i real libertarian would be someone like Ron/Rand/Massie.
JFC
You didn't rethink this before you hit submit?
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:02 pm to David_DJS
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You didn't rethink this before you hit submit?
what do you mean? do you not think they are libertrains? if so JFC
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:06 pm to lsu777
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what do you mean? do you not think they are libertrains? if so JFC
May I?
You mean those three libertarian leaning republicans? Ask any of the three of them if they would have preferred Hillary or Biden over Trump. Most of you say there's no difference.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:18 pm to lsu777
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what do you mean? do you not think they are libertrains? if so JFC
No. I think it's f'n retarded to mention as ideal/prominent Libertarians, two members of Congress that have figured out that, even with their Libertarian views, it makes most sense for them and the country to register/vote Republican. You did this in a thread where Libertarians are explaining why voting for L's rather than R's makes sense, even though their votes, regardless of intent, do nothing but help Leftists get elected.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:19 pm to Flats
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Show me all the people in jail because Trump or Bush used the FBI as their personal political goon squad. Show me the illegal investigation and spying on the opposition candidate for president.
Do you remember what legislation made all this possible? You remember when then candidate Trump accused the Clinton campaign of using the FBI to use that legislation to spy on his campaign? Do you remember what liberal clown reauthorized that legislation while in office?
Video of Trump, Fauci, et al Announcing the Lockdowns That Republicans Have Blocked From Their Memory
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:19 pm to troyt37
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Ask any of the three of them if they would have preferred Hillary or Biden over Trump. Most of you say there's no difference.
Trump is how we ended up with Biden.
Do better.
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