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re: Libertarian's job is to give Democrats the wins

Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:28 pm to
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and y'all just keep electing them over and over because they say what you want to hear.


Im gonna bet that you think that McCain and Romney were a couple of "mavericks".....
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Because Republicans restrain them.


This times one million.

Only a complete idiot doesn't understand that despite their many faults, the Republicans are the only thing keeping these insane Democrats at bay.

Further, it's hilarious to see the usual suspects decry the idiocy of the Boberts/Greenes who are largely responsible for keeping the Republicans in (minimal) check.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:41 pm to
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We are wasting our breath. They are fully aware marxist democrats are actively trying to destroy this country, and actively trying to violate any of our constitutionally protected rights that stand in the way of the marxist/socialist agenda. They don't care. All they care about is convincing us that republicans are just as bad.

In a hypothetical race where a RINO was up against a Dem, and control of the senate was going to the winning side - and with the WH and House in Dem hands, and the Dem party off the rails like it is today - most of these guys would quietly vote RINO. And the ones that wouldn't are hopelessly retarded.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:44 pm to
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You contradict yourself here.

What they do is all that matters, but you're pretending 100% is the same as 30%.

Why?


There's no contradiction and I'm not pretending anything. You can cite one example and pretend it applies across the board. I'm not going to play that game with you.

You also seem to think inaction is acceptable. Doing nothing to restore our rights isn't any better than participating in their erosion in the first place.

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Because Republicans restrain them. 




Again, Reagan and Trump did more damage to the Second Amendment than Obama or Biden could ever hope to do.

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Yes, I understand this. And it's what I'm arguing is stupid.


I know what you're trying to argue. You're just making a poor argument.

"Look what those people are doing" works for idiots.

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Yes, I'm saying you should vote in whatever way best protects your 2A rights


That's exactly what I do.

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I'll continue to vote for shitty Republicans


I know you will.

You're either too ignorant to see the problem with it, or you don't care. The distinction isn't important.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14674 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Why should I vote for Murkowski?

Or Tshibaka?


Vote for Chesbro if it makes you feel good. As long as you don't have anything to say when her party abolishes your 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 9th, and or 10th Amendment guarantees. Don't bitch when the Electoral College is destroyed, and Alaska's vote doesn't mean diddly shite. And most of all don't bitch when we our country is so broken we have to sell Alaska back to the Russians so we can continue defending Europe and paying for children and the military to transition genders.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:46 pm to
John Kasich is anti 2nd Amendment

OK, Mr. Second Amendment, here's a video of YOUR FAVORITE POLITICIAN touting those "common sense gun laws"....

You admit you are stupid for supporting him?
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14674 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:48 pm to
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Democrats aren't alone in causing the issues we have. Republicans have their hands in it, too, and y'all just keep electing them over and over because they say what you want to hear.


Well, the obvious solution to that is to vote over and over for someone who will never have to take responsibility for anything, right?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:49 pm to
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"Look what those people are doing" works for idiots.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Well, the obvious solution to that is to vote over and over for someone who will never have to take responsibility for anything, right?


Seems to be your strategy to "fix" the country.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:51 pm to
Why do you support Politicians who want to destroy the 2nd Amendment?

It's no secret that you are a huge John Kasich supporter, yet you ignore the fact that HE URGED TRUMP to take action on gun control.

You are a liar, a coward and a hypocrite for continuing this disingenuous Jihad against "the Establishment" when YOU are a shill for that Establishment.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9173 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:51 pm to
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In a hypothetical race where a RINO was up against a Dem, and control of the senate was going to the winning side - and with the WH and House in Dem hands, and the Dem party off the rails like it is today - most of these guys would quietly vote RINO. And the ones that wouldn't are hopelessly retarded.


quietly? they loudly do it for Graham every year in SC
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14674 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Is it dumber than voting for one side that you openly admit is bad because they convinced you the other side is worse? You don't think you've been propagandized at all?



Yes, it is. There's bad, and there's worse. Then there's the backup quarterback (libertarian) that everyone loves until they actually get put in a game. Nobody had to convince me that marxist democrats are worse. They are objectively, quantifiably worse. We both know it, I just won't play stupid about it.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:55 pm to
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Then there's the backup quarterback (libertarian)


Then there are people like Buckeye who just want to sit and bitch.

He complains about people trying to take his guns, yet he supports Politicians (John Kasich) who want to take his guns.

He then pretends to have the high ground and castigate people for their choices while ignoring his own stupid choices.

He is the proverbial pigeon on the chess board.

Some a-holes just want to argue and they will lie and project just to keep that argument alive.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14674 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:57 pm to
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"Look what those people are doing" works for idiots.


Well, you had to get something right eventually. "Look at what those republicans are doing" is what you have been spouting for 12 pages.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:59 pm to
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"Look at what those republicans are doing"


Oh, sure, sure....

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Vote for Chesbro if it makes you feel good. As long as you don't have anything to say when her party abolishes your 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 9th, and or 10th Amendment guarantees. Don't bitch when the Electoral College is destroyed, and Alaska's vote doesn't mean diddly shite. And most of all don't bitch when we our country is so broken we have to sell Alaska back to the Russians so we can continue defending Europe and paying for children and the military to transition genders.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:00 pm to
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There's no contradiction and I'm not pretending anything. You can cite one example and pretend it applies across the board. I'm not going to play that game with you.

It's not a game. It's math. And that's the most recent example of gun legislation that passed. So, tell me about examples where Republicans voted for gun laws in numbers rivaling Dems. That's an honest question - I'm unaware of any times, but maybe I'm wrong?

So tell us about those instances.

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Again, Reagan and Trump did more damage to the Second Amendment than Obama or Biden could ever hope to do.

Why is that, DB? Be honest - to whatever degree it's true, how is it that Obama/Biden could never do more damage to 2A than Reagan/Trump?

You know the answer is ......... "because Republicans restrain them"

There's no way you're genuinely stupid enough to believe that Democrats wouldn't impose a gun ban if Republicans (in congress and their voters) didn't stand in the way.

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I know what you're trying to argue. You're just making a poor argument.

"Look what those people are doing" works for idiots.

FFS, you just made that argument.

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You're either too ignorant to see the problem with it, or you don't care. The distinction isn't important.

Why don't you answer the what if, DB?

It's because I'm not the ignorant one here, and you enjoy the back and forth on these boards too much to acknowledge that you don't really believe the stupidity you are pretending to.

Otherwise, answer it - what happens to our gun rights if 20% of conservatives vote like you?
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14674 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:03 pm to
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Oh, sure, sure....


Gonna be funny when the marxists take over and impeach your sig picture for wrong think and Uncle Tom crimes against the Peoples Republic of the Disunited States.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:06 pm to
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"Look what those people are doing" works for idiots.


I love that you just keep throwing up those assists.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14674 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:07 pm to
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It's not a game. It's math. And that's the most recent example of gun legislation that passed. So, tell me about examples where Republicans voted for gun laws in numbers rivaling Dems. That's an honest question - I'm unaware of any times, but maybe I'm wrong?


The government institutionalized their unconstitutional right to make any gun laws in 1934. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was president. Wonder who controlled congress the senate and the Supreme Court then? I bet he doesn't care, because republicans are just as bad.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14674 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:09 pm to
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I love that you just keep throwing up those assists.


You quoted yourself, Einstein. Or one of your Libertarian comrades.
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