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re: Libertarian's job is to give Democrats the wins

Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:14 pm to
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No shite, I'm just pointing out they didn't.
And also that Clinton, unlike ANY president since, moved to the center after the GOP took over Congress.

Welfare reform was even championed by Bill.

He may have been a shitty Human, but he definitely knew how to politic

W, Obama, and Trump were all egotistical frick-wagons, who would rather do nothing and blame opponents. . .than work with "the enemy"
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:19 pm to
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So you didn't answer it.


Yes, I did.

Perhaps my answer wasn't concise enough for you.

quote:

I'll ask again but more concisely -

Which party is more aggressively and more completely after our guns - Republicans or Democrats?


I'll answer again, but more concisely...

Democrats wish they could get gun control pushed forward like Republicans do.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:20 pm to
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I'll answer again, but more concisely...

Democrats wish they could get gun control pushed forward like Republicans do.

Okay, so you see Republicans as the greater threat to your right to bear arms.

Okay.

This makes your voting L make sense.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 8:22 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:31 pm to
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Okay, so you see Republicans as the greater threat to your right to bear arms.


No. I recognize that Republicans have been recently successful in threatening my right to bear arms.

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This makes your voting L make sense.


I'm not a Libertarian.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:31 pm to
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Okay, so you see Republicans as the greater threat to your right to bear arms.



Those that pretend to be your ally are the ones who do the most damage.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:06 pm to
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No. I recognize that Republicans have been recently successful in threatening my right to bear arms.

But that wasn't the question that you believe you've answered.

I asked which party is the greater threat to our right to bear arms, the Dems or Reps, or is there zero difference?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:10 pm to
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But that wasn't the question that you believe you've answered.


I answered the question.

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I asked which party is the greater threat to our right to bear arms, the Dems or Reps, or is there zero difference?



I'm looking at results. Trump eroded the Second Amendment in four years more than Obama did in eight.

For all the positives Reagan has, his record on gun control is a blight on his presidency.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:46 pm to
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I answered the question.

No, you didn't. I still don't know which party with complete control you believe is the greater threat to our right to bear arms. I think I know your answer, but that's based on some other threads I've seen your participation in - but I could be wrong.

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I'm looking at results. Trump eroded the Second Amendment in four years more than Obama did in eight.

For all the positives Reagan has, his record on gun control is a blight on his presidency.

But this still isn't a reason to support Dems, directly or indirectly, if you believe they're ultimately a greater 2A threat.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:53 pm to
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No, you didn't.


Yes, I did.

You're wrapped up with what folks say they'll do. I'm more concerned with what they've actually been able to accomplish.

Obviously Democrats are more frenetic in their desire to attack our rights, including the Second Amendment. But, they don't hide that and we fight them at every turn.

But, a Republican tells you they're "a real big 2A supporter" and you ignore the "but."

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But this still isn't a reason to support Dems


Nope, but it will cost Republicans my vote. If you don't care, that's fine. I'll not tell anyone how they ought to vote. But, for me, there's no more important right than those protected by the Second Amendment.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 6:13 am to
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But, for me, there's no more important right than those protected by the Second Amendment.


You voted for John Fking Kasich.

You supported Liz Fking Cheney.


You need to shut the fk up about the choices others make, you POS establishment shill.

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 6:20 am to
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. I'm more concerned with what they've actually been able to accomplish.



Says the guy who has terminal TDS.

If that were true, you'd have "MAGA" tattooed on your skinny little arm.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 7:01 am to
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That ain't what's dying if the Dems complete their takeover. It's weird that you guys keep pretending this isn't the case. Makes one wonder -


Dems had a majority in both houses and the white house since January of 2021. Why didn't they complete the takeover then?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 7:06 am to
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Why didn't they complete the takeover then?


What makes you think they haven't?

The ONLY way the Dems keep the House in November is via fraud, period...
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 7:20 am to
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What makes you think they haven't?


Maybe they have.

If they haven't, why not?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58910 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 7:45 am to
it has become more and more clear that libertarians/the libertarian movement are a CIA/deepstate psyop intended to move america away from the church and traditional values. i can't believe more people don't see this.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 7:50 am to
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move america away from the church


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:13 am to
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it has become more and more clear that libertarians/the libertarian movement are a CIA/deepstate psyop intended to move america away from the church and traditional values.


Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12984 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:17 am to
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Kemp sucks,


I don’t know what crack you’re smoking. He’s been a damn good governor. Stood up to the woke fricks AND to the MTG qanon moron trumpkins.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:32 am to
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sounds crazy


Says the Establishment shill.

What is it about the US Government that makes your little bootlicking heart think that this isn't possible and therefore sounds "crazy"?

I know you're a bootlicker who craves the "stability" of the Establishment, but for once, try and think outside the box, or as your Masters call it "wrongthink".

Why does this sound crazy?

The Infallibility of the Libertarian Party?

The integrity of the US Govt ?

Go ahead, tell the class why the little myopic bootlicker thinks the notion is crazy.

We await your omniscience on the subject.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Dems had a majority in both houses and the white house since January of 2021. Why didn't they complete the takeover then?

Does it really need to be explained to you? Do you have any sense of the real world?
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