re: Libertarian's job is to give Democrats the wins

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so what your saying is 30yrs of wasted tax payer money has been spent on the so called "war on drugs"

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You're surprised? How many wars have you ever heard of with no battle lines being drawn? How many wars have you ever heard of where you never attack your enemy, just their collaborators that are convenient to scoop up and charge? How many wars have you ever heard of where you never blow up shite and kill people where it hurts them the most?

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If there is zero chance of winning, then money spent on a campaign should be illegal

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Come again?

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So, why should I blindly support either party?

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Who said anything about blindly supporting anything? I absolutely loathe 98% of all republicans, but I remain one so that I can vote in the primaries, helping to weed out the shitbag candidates. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't, but even when it doesn't the candidate that makes it through is rarely an openly marxist/socialist. The point being that I am afforded the opportunity, however miniscule, to influence the candidate that the party puts forward.

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Much of the time it is the Republican that most closely matches my ideals. But if it isn't, I'm not voting for him.

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I've ranted and raved the same many times in the past right here on TD. A person has every right to give up on the republican party ever being the solution to the country's problems, because they are so much a part of them. Hell, I've said myself not more than a month or two ago that if you think the republican party is the answer, then you aren't asking the right questions.

But the fact remains that we are now staring straight down the barrel at a party that has no qualms about using the force of government to destroy you, if you oppose their agenda. They have no qualms about destroying you if you stand up for your rights as a human being and an American. And now they have no qualms about not only using the force of government, but using the force of businesses and corporations to silence and destroy you for opposing their agenda.

This is a different beast completely. Now is the time for the enemy of my enemy to become my friend. If we don't find a way to stand together in the coming years, we are absolutely going to be facing an authoritarian government capable of taking what you have, silencing dissent, and disposing of their opposition. People think that is hyperbole, and can never happen in this country, but it already is happening. It's just a matter of scale, until they have total control, and then they can do as they wish. FOX and CNN sure as hell aren't going to raise the red flag!

If republicans want Libertarians to vote for them, be more libertarian.

Ron Paul did it.

But GOP demanding fealty from Libertarians is the height of stupidity. Like we owe you con men something. . .

The only difference between the GOP and Dems. . .is social issues.

Big Government, Big Spending, Warmongers literally owned by special interests. Both are going to be the end of this country. I can wait for you morons to finish the US off.

You'll get our vote, when you earn our vote. Not before

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If republicans want Libertarians to vote for them, be more libertarian.

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And if Libertarians want real conservatives to vote for them, they need to stop the open border shite and unfair trade deals.

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And if Libertarians want real conservatives to vote for them, they need to stop the open border shite and unfair trade deals.

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Libertarians aren't demanding Repubs vote for them. Blaming you when we don't win.

That's you.

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No politician can solve my problems, that's up to me. They can only cause me problems.

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I feel you Roj but out of the only two realistic possibilities to win, which party will completely stifle you if the other party loses? BTW.. that question is rhetorical because there is no way you feel there is any hope with this administration. I can also see why you are burnt on the R party especially with your RINO governor. I reviewed her policies and she has basically voted with Dems on EVERY single agenda item that mattered. She occasionally votes some trivial BS that might benefit the actual middle class of Alaskans but it's rare.

There was a questionnaire or survey sent out in 2015. I still remember it. It basically asked a ton of political, economic, and personal questions. It was at least 100 questions. When completed it inferred I was majority libertarian. I still believe that today. Although when I listen to RP versus Trump or DeSantis messaging I tend to side more with R's. Go figure.

Maybe Libertarians need a better candidate than Ron Paul. Right now, voting for a candidate who is sure to lose versus voting for someone you can stomach is a better choice in the long run. I feel you though and respect why you vote the way you do.

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Libertarians aren't demanding Repubs vote for them. Blaming you when we don't win.

That's you.

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Right, because you don't care if marxist/socialists are in control. Which is how we know you aren't really conservatives.

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Right, because you don't care if marxist/socialists are in control.

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Authoritarian control by the right or the left.

All the same to me.

I have my principles. I stand by them.

Neither party is for freedom. Both are for big spending, huge government, never-ending wars, and a surveillance state

But I should vote GOP because trannies?

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It is better for us to go ahead and shite or get off the pot. If it means democrats win so that the uniparty system kills itself, GOOD!

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That ain't what's dying if the Dems complete their takeover. It's weird that you guys keep pretending this isn't the case. Makes one wonder -