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re: Libertarian's job is to give Democrats the wins
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Has nothing to do with libertarianism.
Oh, but it do. You just refuse to acknowledge it. Ending entitlements is a fine ideal, but if you think you are going to do that in lieu of, or in conjunction with building a physical barrier to stem the invasion, you're either disingenuous, ignorant, stupid, or a vapid utopian idealist.
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"Stand on your own merit" is the opposite of pie in the sky. I'm 10x more comfortable making my own way than I am trusting your central planners.
Bla, bla, bla. 50-60 percent of the voting public actively oppose any notion of standing on their own merit, or taking any kind of personal responsibility for themselves whatsoever. Their solution is to have the central government control all of the money, distribute it as they see fit and according to your social credit store, and get everything for "free" from the government.
The marxist/socialists are conducting a mostly bloodless revolution, and you are either going to do everything in your power to oppose, defeat, and destroy these marxists, or you are going to capitulate to it, becoming a subject rather than a citizen with liberties, freedoms, and rights. You can't even convince more than 5% of the people to support your platform, while insisting that the party that carries roughly 49% of the support of the voting public that they are the outliers. Do you brother, but just know that the opportunity for fixing anything is rapidly dwindling, because marxist/socialists are pretty notorious for killing those who oppose them as soon as they have the power to do so.
Y'all have fun with this. My head is sore from
trying to get a coherent thought across to a few libertarians.
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:57 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Who cares about junkies and what they do?
My concern is for the dwindling number of citizens that contribute to paying taxes.
My concern is for the dwindling number of citizens that contribute to paying taxes.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:02 pm to troyt37
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Bla, bla, bla. 50-60 percent of the voting public actively oppose any notion of standing on their own merit
Congratulations, I guess. You're in the majority at least.
I'm have never said I am 100% open border btw, so I am not sure why you have such angst about it.
I am for drug legalization, and no welfare for people who are capable of supporting themselves.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:03 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Who cares about junkies and what they do?
Me. Junkies have children. Those children often have their childhood destroyed by their junkie parents. Those children very often have to avail themselves of taxpayer dollars to provide the goods and services that their junkie parents should be gainfully employed in order to provide. Those children very often perpetuate the lives that their junkie parents destroyed them with, bringing further generations to complete the destructive cycle. Do you really think that junkie parents and what they do happens in a vaccuum?
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My concern is for the dwindling number of citizens that contribute to paying taxes.
Getting marxist democrats elected does nothing to assuage those concerns.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:04 pm to jrodLSUke
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Libertarians support open borders, free flowing drug trade including fentanyl, and bad US trade deals.
Who created the idea of NAFTA? Which party wanted more immigration here because the Chamber of Commerce said it was a good thing? Idiots like you and Troy are too dense and ignorant to realize the Republicans you've voted for your entire life are precisely the things you claim to hate.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:05 pm to troyt37
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Getting marxist democrats elected does nothing to assuage those concerns.
Neither does electing RINO Chamber of Commerce shills.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:11 pm to troyt37
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Me. Junkies have children.
Here we go...Slopes are slippery today.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:12 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Neither does electing RINO Chamber of Commerce shills.
At least they have the opportunity to oppose it, which is much more than you can say about 100% of libertarians.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:14 pm to troyt37
Haha. The Republican Party doesn't oppose anything. They posture and say just enough to keep the money coming in but do absolutely nothing.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:15 pm to SCLibertarian
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Idiots like you and Troy are too dense and ignorant to realize the Republicans you've voted for your entire life are precisely the things you claim to hate.
And idiots like you are too dense and ignorant to realize that your solution only guarantees more and more of the things you claim to hate. I guess you'll happily march off to the gulag in Alaska with your principles in tow, when it is illegal to hold your views.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:17 pm to troyt37
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And idiots like you are too dense and ignorant to realize that your solution only guarantees more and more of the things you claim to hate.
Wrong. You keep voting for milquetoast, you will continue to get milquetoast, yet blame everyone else that wants better.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Here we go...Slopes are slippery today.
So, you want a larger, more powerful, ever growing government to care for the destruction that we all know addiction brings?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You keep voting for milquetoast, you will continue to get milquetoast, yet blame everyone else that wants better.
Jrod literally claimed that Libertarians support open borders and bad trade deals. NAFTA was created by the Reagan Administration and supported by the HW Bush Administration. More Republicans than Democrats voted for its passage. And didn't Reagan grant amnesty to almost 3 million illegals while President? All because the Chamber of Commerce RINO's knew it would be a good source of cheap labor. Who needs Libertarians when the Republicans these simps vote screw them year after year?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:31 pm to troyt37
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So, you want a larger, more powerful, ever growing government to care for the destruction that we all know addiction brings?
No, in fact in my world social welfare decreases.
You're leaving out huge parts of the discussion.
THe war on drugs is one of those failed things I mentioned earlier that people like you keep supporting, so it keeps failing.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Wrong. You keep voting for milquetoast, you will continue to get milquetoast, yet blame everyone else that wants better.
Reality doesn't give a shite about what you want. I want better myself, but there are a set of realities that must factor in.
I want better. Better would be marxism/socialism not existing. Do you think maybe if I hold my breath long enough it will go away? How about if I just refuse to participate in marxism/socialism, will that make it go away?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:39 pm to SCLibertarian
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And didn't Reagan grant amnesty to almost 3 million illegals while President? All because the Chamber of Commerce RINO's knew it would be a good source of cheap labor. Who needs Libertarians when the Republicans these simps vote screw them year after year?
I'm sure you don't even care what the deal was on this, but I'll tell you anyway. The amnesty was done with the word of one Tip O'Neil that border security would be funded. Reagan didn't follow his own motto, and forgot the verify part of trust but verify. But you knew that.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:42 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Isn't this the party of Hank, HHTM, and SFP?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:44 pm to troyt37
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Reality doesn't give a shite about what you wan
There's no better reality than merit and self sufficiency. You keep supporting failed policy, things will never improve.
Reality is harsh and you can't social engineer your way out of it.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No, in fact in my world social welfare decreases.
But we don't live in your world. We live in the world, where everything the government touches turns to shite, and costs the American taxpayer ever more money. Never less.
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THe war on drugs is one of those failed things I mentioned earlier that people like you keep supporting, so it keeps failing.
How has the war on drugs failed, when we've never tried it? Wouldn't a true war on drugs include closing our southern border? Wouldn't a true war on drugs include destroying the cartels in Mexico, Columbia and elsewhere, and salting the ground where the drugs are grown? Wouldn't a true war on drugs include executing dealers and traffickers of deadly drugs like fentanyl and heroin? Wouldn't a true war on drugs include prison time or execution of US agents and officials who fund and participate in the same drug trade?
We haven't had a war on drugs. We've had a police action against users, a few dealers, a few traffickers, and once in a blue moon the producers. You can't say it's failed when it has never been tried.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 1:55 pm to troyt37
so what your saying is 30yrs of wasted tax payer money has been spent on the so called "war on drugs"
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