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re: Libertarian's job is to give Democrats the wins
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:43 am to troyt37
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:43 am to troyt37
quote:Because we keep electing Republicans and Democrats
he last time a significant government instituted program or law was abolished was prohibition, almost 100 years ago.
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
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End benefits for them, it ends.
You just said you aren't killing any of the leftists who vote to spend trillions of taxpayer dollars supporting criminal illegals. So which is it? You think you are going to magically get liberals to see the light and cut off the taxpayer dollars to these criminals? We both know that is utopian hogwash. Now what?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Trump destroyed you people.
Trump destroyed a group of people, but it wasn't Republicans.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:52 am to armtackledawg
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Trump destroyed a group of people, but it wasn't Republicans.
And the evidence is this thread. Look how much bandwidth is spent talking about the Libertarian candidate in the op vs a man who isn’t in office or on a ballot. The Libertarians were losing elections before Trump and will after Trump but he’s apparently their favorite topic and the source of all evil.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:58 am to Roaad
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Soooo librul.
California is the perfect place for a dyed in the wool libertarian, isn't it? I mean, what better place is there to sit around acting like you want to end the redistribution of wealth, with a lesser chance of actually having it happen?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:02 am to Flats
quote:They are talking about Jo Jorgenson, the 2020 candidate.
Look how much bandwidth is spent talking about the Libertarian candidate in the op vs a man who isn’t in office or on a ballot.
Who was the 2020 republican candidate?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:03 am to troyt37
quote:So? You against principled stances? Or is it just being principled in general, that irks you?
California is the perfect place for a dyed in the wool libertarian, isn't it? I mean, what better place is there to sit around acting like you want to end the redistribution of wealth, with a lesser chance of actually having it happen?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:20 am to Roaad
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So? You against principled stances? Or is it just being principled in general, that irks you?
No, it's the pie in the sky utopian hogwash that irks me. I would think anyone who actually believes in liberty, freedom, small government, ending tyranny, and ending the redistribution of wealth especially to criminal illegals would make it a priority to get the frick out of the Peoples Republic of California as soon as humanly possible. Is there another state in the country that could be considered more of a poster child for all of those things than California? Is there another state with less of a possibility of ever changing any of that?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:13 pm to troyt37
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No, it's the pie in the sky utopian hogwash that irks me
Has nothing to do with libertarianism.
"Stand on your own merit" is the opposite of pie in the sky. I'm 10x more comfortable making my own way than I am trusting your central planners.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:18 pm to Flats
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And the evidence is this thread
Exactly. Most of you pretended to be libertarian leaning prior to 2016. You let a mental midget lead you astray. Freedom and liberty are now your dirty words.
Just like the Democrats.
Your faith is in government, not in yourself.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:35 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Libertarians support open borders, free flowing drug trade including fentanyl, and bad US trade deals. To me, that sounds like Libertarians and Democrats are the true UniParty. 
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:37 pm to DellTronJon
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Maybe what is giving democrats the win is putting up shitty candidates like Kemp and Walker. GA should be hard red, but the dumbass Republicans keep putting up candidates that nobody wants to vote for.
Nobody but me ever talks about getting rid of Ronna McDaniel
Doug Collins was in that Senate race and should have been the clear winner
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:37 pm to jrodLSUke
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, free flowing drug trade including fentanyl
Without drug prohibition, you would never had to worry about that stuff.
Prohibition brings more dangerous products, and a far more dangerous market.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:45 pm to David_DJS
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I read through the thread but didn't tie your name to that comment, so I misspoke and apologize - if you're against L's voting L rather than R, regardless of how weak the R is, in order to keep Dems out of office, then we're on the same page.
well unfortunately that is the reality of the way things are.....can it change...maybe but it isnt going to change with the libertarian party running a very shitty candidate every 4 years for president.
it takes an effort like Young americans for liberty is doing in Rhode Island. a viable 3rd party has to start with local and state elections and then from there after years, they maybe able to run a viable candidate for president. the national libertarian party hasnt run a legit candidate since ron paul.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:46 pm to troyt37
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If you think spending 5 billion dollars to build a physical barrier between ourselves and Mexico is dramatically increasing the size and scope of our government, you actually have no concept of the size and scope of our government. We have recently spent 10x that amount to protect the borders of Ukraine, but I guess it's a bridge too far to protect our own.
Two things on your precious border wall:
1. IRS Revocation or Denial of Passport. Remember those 87,000 agents they are hiring? What are you going to do when every exit is guarded by a TSA agent?
2. Canada to Allow Unvaccinated Travel Across Their Border.
I've said this from the beginning, if the wall truly works on keeping people out, then it will be equally as effective in keeping them in. I find it odd that no one considers this as a possibility. Canada literally just did this. Our gov't used the Patriot Act against us almost immediately.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:46 pm to troyt37
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You just said you aren't killing any of the leftists
True. Ending welfare for able bodied persons isn't killing them.
Histrionics.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:47 pm to jrodLSUke
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Libertarians support open borders, free flowing drug trade including fentanyl, and bad US trade deals. To me, that sounds like Libertarians and Democrats are the true UniParty
no libertarians only support open borders after all forms of government welfare have been abolished. so essentially there is no reason to come here unless you plan to be a productive citizen.
as far as the drug trade....yea what we are doing is working so fricking well....how dare we try something different. how fricking dare we.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:48 pm to jrodLSUke
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Libertarians support open borders, free flowing drug trade including fentanyl, and bad US trade deals. To me, that sounds like Libertarians and Democrats are the true UniParty.
They love that illegal filth.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:49 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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, if he was in this for the good of the country,
what good of the country, and for whom?
Politics are a tradeoff. Winners and losers. If the Republican Party doesn't do a better job of selling itself, it will continue to be a loser.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 12:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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quote:
, free flowing drug trade including fentanyl
Without drug prohibition, you would never had to worry about that stuff.
It seems dubious to me that opioid junkies will somehow become much more rational in how they choose to get their fix if we would just make certain opioids "legal" for them.
I'm assuming based on your point, you are somehow excluding fentanyl from your libertarian drug legalization fantasy? Or is your assumption that it just magically goes away as soon as (or sometime shortly after) everything is "legal"?
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