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re: Letter from Uvalde Chief of Police

Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94354 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:37 pm to
Imagine releasing a letter after 19 children were killed and saying "our guys were shot at but thank God they weren't killed"

Yikes
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:40 pm to
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magine releasing a letter after 19 children were killed and saying "our guys were shot at but thank God they weren't killed"


I cringed a little when I read that.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6139 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

He’s under tremendous pressure also bc Abbott is trying to get re-elected. This schmuck would be thrown under the bus in a heartbeat if he tarnishes Abbott.


His frick up has nothing to Do with Abott.
Posted by Telecaster
Memphis
Member since May 2017
1659 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:17 pm to
Look at the letterhead. Even the UPD patch is bullshite with the 'To Protect and Serve' motto on it.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29025 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:21 pm to
About as useful as this:

Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
2570 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:53 pm to
Hope your cover letter to Brinks looks better than that, you fricking Choad.
Posted by Priapism99
Rhode Island
Member since Nov 2014
1909 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 5:45 am to
If it doesn’t say “therefore I , and the officers involved, hearby tender our resignations “ then it’s all bullshite.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
1793 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:41 am to
LINK uvalde training manual says that if you are not willing to put your life on the line, you should seek other employment.
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
4918 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:11 am to
quote:

our Officers responded within minutes


…..and then we stood around for over an hour and arrested disrupting parents who were very annoying.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9920 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:14 am to
Unless it is a letter of resignation, I am not interested
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:08 am to
quote:

The ISD police chief was in control at the school.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 10:09 am to
He is trying to throw the ISD under the bus. No mention of the sheriff officers or any other agency the responded, including the Border Patrol agents responsible for ending it.

There was a single ISD officer who we know responded. He was working at another school:
quote:

Mireles’s husband, Ruben Ruiz, is a school police officer, and her mother-in-law works in the district’s central office, according to Lydia Martinez Delgado, who is the mother-in-law’s sister. Martinez Delgado said her sister relayed to her that Ruiz rushed to the elementary school when he heard reports of the shooting and entered the building, then he saw it was his wife’s classroom.

He tried to enter but had to be held back by other officers, Martinez Delgado said she was told. Eventually, Ruiz returned to his mother’s office, where they got the news that Mireles was dead.
LINK

So not only insensitive to the victim's families, but fully knowing that the single ISD officer responding was held back by his officers from going in.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 10:24 am to
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So not only insensitive to the victim's families, but fully knowing that the single ISD officer responding was held back by his officers from going in.


Jeez did the cops just go there to block? You can't hold people back if you have no plan to do anything.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:03 am to
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There's something really wrong with this man. The honorable thing at this point would be to resign and kill himself. He made a drastically bad decision to prioritize his officers over children.


You do realize this is from the city police chief and not the ISD police chief who was in charge, right? However, this guy should have just ordered his own men in when he saw the ISD police chief wasn’t upholding his duties.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146527 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:41 am to
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quote:

Multiple law enforcement sources revealed to Breitbart Texas that part of the delay in stopping the barricaded elementary school shooter hinged on a deadly mix of the shooter’s defensive tactics and the lack of needed gear. Specifically, officers lacked the ballistic shield needed to enter the classroom with the barricaded shooter. Attempting to breach the door without a ballistic shield would have resulted in certain death for the officers which could have provided the shooter with the officers’ weapons and ammunition.

Police initially lacked ballistic Shield


It appears as if any blanket statements about any cop or LEO not getting it right. Will be because they lacked the fortitude and training to bypass needing a ballistic shield.

Myself and any mother or father I have known would not hesitate to go in after their child, even unarmed and ill prepared. Another school shooting in a small town in Ohio had a mother go in armed and she was arrested on the spot.

So it get's down to the don't go in a burning house unless you are trained; because you will die trying to save someone. And what good does a child losing their mother do if the fireman get them out?

I think once the investigation is over we will find that initially----the training tactics ruled by them lacking equipment. The school police chief should have overruled protocol of tactics; and garnered enough manpower to ambush & or rush the crazy kid.

Also, even in the school shooting in a tiny Ohio town of 1500. They always have a Law enforcement person on duty at the school. This school didn't, why?
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 11:52 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146527 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Officers were told, under Chief Arredondo’s direction, that the situation had evolved from one with an active shooter — which would call for immediately attacking the gunman, even before rescuing other children — to one with a barricaded subject, which would call for a slower approach, officials said.

That appeared to be an incorrect assessment,
Posted by DeepBlueSea
Member since Jan 2018
773 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

That is policespeak for "I will answer all the questions I want to."


Yeah, but most of them at least phrase it a bit more eloquently. “I will be able to answer all the questions that we can” is so thoroughly uninformative and so poorly written that it doesn’t even serve as useful filler. The only reason it’s even a true statement is because there’s no way to make it false: The questions you’re able to answer are ALWAYS the questions you *can* answer, whether there’s been a full investigation or not.

Either way, though, I agree that it doesn’t offer much hope that the Uvalde Chief of Police will be more forthcoming than the school district police force (or whoever it was that was nominally in charge) when all is said and done.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

I think once the investigation is over we will find that initially----the training tactics ruled by them lacking equipment. The school police chief should have overruled protocol of tactics; and garnered enough manpower to ambush & or rush the crazy kid.



Thread back from the dead

Recent photo shows that they had a shield. 19 counts negligent homicide per each.
Posted by DomesticatedBoar
Pensacola, FL
Member since Jul 2019
607 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 10:56 pm to
Everyone should be demanding to see the body-cam footage. At least someone outside the circle of those in the town with (potentially) something to hide. Are any of the cops responsible for accidentally shooting children?
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