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Let's Revisit the Alexa Controversy
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:17 am
I posted about this a day or two ago. Steven Crowder made a video on the 24th where he asked Amazon's Alexa a bunch of politically charged questions like "Who was Muhammed" and "Who was Jesus" and "What is communism." Alexa answered with obviously left-wing propagandized answers.
I posted the video here several days after his video went live and people here asked their Alexa the same questions and got totally different answers. The consensus here was that Crowder made it up and had edited his video to make Alexa give fake answers.
Well, this board weren't the only skeptics as the "conspiracy" theories went viral on the net. Crowder got word people were questioning the authenticity and made a response video where he plays the whole unedited video as shown in his video editor. He also plays videos of other people on Youtube getting the same exact answers.
Crowder's verdict? Amazon saw his video and tweaked the algorithms which is why people now aren't getting the same answers today as they were on the 24th.
Link to his response video: Youtube
Which conspiracy theory do you believe? Did Crowder fake his video? Did his listeners send in their own fake videos too? Or is Amazon the one engaged in a conspiracy by changing the answers after the fact?
I posted the video here several days after his video went live and people here asked their Alexa the same questions and got totally different answers. The consensus here was that Crowder made it up and had edited his video to make Alexa give fake answers.
Well, this board weren't the only skeptics as the "conspiracy" theories went viral on the net. Crowder got word people were questioning the authenticity and made a response video where he plays the whole unedited video as shown in his video editor. He also plays videos of other people on Youtube getting the same exact answers.
Crowder's verdict? Amazon saw his video and tweaked the algorithms which is why people now aren't getting the same answers today as they were on the 24th.
Link to his response video: Youtube
Which conspiracy theory do you believe? Did Crowder fake his video? Did his listeners send in their own fake videos too? Or is Amazon the one engaged in a conspiracy by changing the answers after the fact?
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:18 am to AUstar
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Which conspiracy theory do you believe? Did Crowder fake his video? Did his listeners send in their own fake videos too?
Is it possible for you to ask unbiased questions ever?
ETA: @ me for confusing you with your fellow Aubbie fan Aubused
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:19 am to AUstar
I think Amazon's responses are dependent upon your search results. Each user's search results are dependent upon their search history. Thus, the responses are more or less individualized. Your search history being different from his resulted in a different answer.
He possibly could have manipulated his search history to influence a certain result.
He possibly could have manipulated his search history to influence a certain result.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:21 am to AUstar
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Amazon's Alexa
Definitely a liberal. Just repeats anything she is told.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:22 am to AUstar
Alexa doesn’t give every person the same answer to the same questions
/controversy
/controversy
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 11:23 am
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:24 am to kingbob
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I think Amazon's responses are dependent upon your search results.
That sounds retarded. If I ask "what is 2+2" I will get different answers based on my "search history?"
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:25 am to AUstar
I love to watch Crowder on the Rogan podcast when Rogan repeatedly refers to Crowder as a bitch. Just once I wish he would try to mouth off to Rogan so that I can watch his jawed get kicked off.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:29 am to AUstar
I'm sure it's Amazon and I hate Bezos but dammit I'm not giving up that Prime.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:12 pm to AUstar
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That sounds retarded. If I ask "what is 2+2" I will get different answers based on my "search history?"
proof 2+2=/=4
than there is quantium physics that makes a mess of math, so yes it is possible.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:23 pm to AUstar
What's the point in owning that crap?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:42 pm to AUstar
quote:So there are the two competing conspiracies:
Crowder's verdict? Amazon saw his video and tweaked the algorithms which is why people now aren't getting the same answers today as they were on the 24th.
Amazon Echo
1. Amazon sells a voice-enabledproduct called the Echo, which uses a virtual assistant called Alexa.
3. Amazon launched the Echo on 05/23/15,, the market cap of Amazon was about 205 billion.
4. The market cap of Amazon when Crowder initially posted his video last week was about 571 billion, a 366 billion (279%) increase over 29 months.
5. Voice enabled speakers are growing rapidly, and as of this May Article, the market grew by 129%, year over year, with the Echo accounting for 70.6% of the 35.6 million speakers or about 25.1 million.
6. The Echo was exclusively available in the US/Canada, Germany, and the UK, although it just recently launched in India and Japan.
7. These initial countries have about 333 million Christians (65.4% of population) compared to only about 11 million (2.2% of population).
8. Given religious practices and distribution of wealth, the 333.2 millino Christians are probably far more likely to use the technology than the 11 million Muslims.
Steven Crowder
1. Comedian
2. Christian
3. Conservative
4. Primarily known for his political commentary, most notably for criticizing liberals and secularism.
Crowder's Claim
1. Alexa called Jesus a fictional character but Muhammad a wise profit, which would not only be anti-Christian it would be pro-Muslim.
3. This anti-Christian, pro-Muslim message was a result of the leftist bias of Amazon.
4. Crowder did not fake or manipulate the outcome in anyway.
5. Crowder's evidence for the lack of manipulation is a video of the incident.
Assumptions necessary to back Crowder's claims
1. One of the most successful companies in the history, has decided to directly insult the faith of 2.4 billion Christians worldwide (33% of world population).
2. More specifically, based on the demographic and geographic characteristics of Amazon's primary market's, Christians would represent the vast majority of the the consumer base.
3. Instead Amazon specifically catered to a religion that represents a small minority of its consumer base.
4. Amazon decided to use their agenda on a rapidly growing technology market as they try to not only increase sales but maintain their market share.
5. This anti-Christian, pro-Muslim agenda, either went unnoticed for nearly 29 months by its 20+ million users, or it was just recently programmed.
5. If it was just recently programmed, then Amazon decided to do this right before a biggest shopping days of the year.
6. If it had gone unnoticed for a long time, (or even if recent)somehow the person to finally noticed it happened to be a popular political commentator, whose popularity is based upon criticizing the same agenda he happened to discover here.
7. In order for the video to completely support the lack of manipulation on Crowder's part beforehand, he must have been filming it upon his random discovery.
So for Crowder's claims to be true, then Amazon is ran by or relies on a bunch of incompetent idiots and/or is actively trying to harm its own name and business for some unknown reason AND Crowder is the luckiest political commentator of all time by stumbling upon something that just happens to perfectly fit his commentary.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:45 pm to MrLarson
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I'm sure it's Amazon and I hate Bezos but dammit I'm not giving up that Prime.
You should. You're feeding a traitor to the country. I don't do any sort of business with Amazon.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:45 pm to starsandstripes
Anyone using Alexa or Google's device or similar stuff is stupid.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:54 pm to starsandstripes
quote:The only way for this statement to not he ironic and hypocritical is from a person who finds all other internet-connected, advanced technology stupid, maybe with the exception of the basic, unavoidable necessities (work email, research, necessary communication). At the very least, that person wouldn’t post on a message board.
Anyone using Alexa or Google's device or similar stuff is stupid.
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