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lawyers....would the doctrine of "fruit of the poison tree" apply?

Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:50 am
Posted by Dry Prong Wildcat
Member since Oct 2017
415 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:50 am
Can Flynn and Popodoplous(sp) and Manafort get off?
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:51 am to
I’m not a lawyer, but I imagine it would have to be investigated. If the memo is found to be correct then I think it would have to be fruit of the poison tree.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16961 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:52 am to
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Can Flynn and Popodoplous(sp) and Manafort get off?



Flynn definitely will. His sentencing was mysteriously postponed a few days ago (Mueller knew what was in the memo).
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67474 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:53 am to
If the charges are dropped against Flynn, the entire left world will die
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13493 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:54 am to
Not a lawyer but Mueller is feeling the power structure ”Schiff” beneath his feet!
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:54 am to
because really thats the only point to any of this. you just dont want trump investigated.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76436 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:54 am to
The trickiest part is coming back from the guilty plea, not just getting evidence thrown out.

There is more than just the memo though. People named IN the memo questioned flynn.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27177 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:55 am to
I'm not sure on Manafort because his indictments really have more to do with money laundering and tax evasion pre Trump canidacy

If I were PapaD, I would quickly stop cooperating with the SC. Same with Flynn and if I were their attorney, I would tell Mueller or Weissman or whomever was in front of me, to eat shite.....then I would sue Fusion GPS, the Law Firm (Coie), Glenn Simpson, personally and even Christopher Steele
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13493 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:57 am to
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because really thats the only point to any of this. you just dont want trump investigated.

Trump has been investigated for 2 years, legally and illegally. No PROOF has ever been found.

You just don’t want to drop the distraction of the pointless investigation.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47770 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:58 am to
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because really thats the only point to any of this. you just dont want trump investigated.


Do you support the illegal acts of the FBI?
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5193 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:58 am to
Yes. We have some clients that got off when the cop was found to be dirty.
Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
669 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:58 am to
This memo lays out a blueprint on how to attack the validity of the FISA warrant by defense attorneys. If the court rules that the FISA warrant and its extensions should not have been granted then all the evidence obtained through the warrant is subject to exclusion. Further, any evidence obtained by the use of the illegally obtained evidence is also subject to exclusion.( Fruit of the poisonous tree.)
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41571 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:58 am to
If the investigations themselves were started based on knowingly-false or inaccurate evidence, there could be a case for throwing out the charges. This sort of thing happens all the time when "guilty" people weren't read their rights or proper warrants weren't obtained, etc.

This could be why the Flynn sentencing was postponed.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5193 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:59 am to
But ask six different lawyers and you get seven different answers.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9914 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 12:01 pm to
Well, they both plead so they waived a lot of rights when they did that, including motions to suppress evidence. However, this is "new" evidence that, had it been known at the time, might have lead them to a decision other than to plead guilty, so they might file a motion for new trial and hope they can start the whole thing over again.
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1733 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 12:01 pm to
yes
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