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Lack of diversity among LA public school teachers is problem that needs fixing apparently
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:09 am
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:09 am
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Local superintendents and those in higher education blame the current teacher shortages on the state's rigorous standards for aspiring educators as well as the lower pay rates Louisiana teachers earn out of college.
Because apparently blacks can’t achieve the standards as whites? That sounds awfully racist to me.
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"We’ve focused on quality so much over the last ten years that quantity has suffered," Lemoine said.
Your Pointe Coupee School Superintendent folks.
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Lemoine had to confront the imbalance in his teaching demographics after two black representatives on the parish's School Board pushed for answers on whether he was making a concerted effort to hire more black teachers.
Because who gives a shite if they are qualified or not. They must look a certain way right?
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National research has shown that a students' race, ethnicity and cultural background significantly influence their achievement, and that kids are better equipped to succeed in an increasingly diverse society when they're taught by teachers from a variety of cultural backgrounds and ethnicities.
So wouldn’t being taught by someone different than you make your education more diverse and better prepare you for a “diverse society”?
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To even get into education programs in Louisiana, students must have a 22 on the ACT or pass the national teaching exam known as PRAXIS I. "The average ACT score for students in Louisiana is probably an 18," People said. "The 22s are not choosing to come into teacher education. And they're telling me it's because of the salary, too. They can go into engineering and start off making double the salary they would make teaching. So, why do this?" Peoples added, "And then to graduate, they have to pass PRAXIS II and have a 2.5 grade-point average. You can graduate in nursing or engineering with a 2.0, and without having to pass any tests."
HAHAHAHA Jesus. Way to set the bar exceptionally low
I am sick and tired of this diversity of appeareance bull shite. Diversity of thought, diversity of point of view, and diversity of opinion is important. Only judging someone by their skin color is superficial and antithetical to what the civil rights movement was all about.
Lack of diversity among LA public school teachers -Advocate article
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:13 am to Oilfieldbiology
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"We’ve focused on quality so much over the last ten years that quantity has suffered," Lemoine said.
holy shite
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:16 am to Oilfieldbiology
And they wonder why south BR is wanting its own ISD.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:17 am to Salmon
Lowering of standards is never a good idea. Especially when those standards are not difficult. Would I like teachers pay raised? Yes. But I also want them held accountable and I want to be able to fire the poor performing ones. Big of hose things are virtually impossible in today’s normal public school system.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:18 am to Oilfieldbiology
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"The 22s are not choosing to come into teacher education. And they're telling me it's because of the salary, too. They can go into engineering
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The 22s
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engineering
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 8:19 am
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:18 am to Oilfieldbiology
You LA baws need to pony up for private school.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:20 am to Oilfieldbiology
First off, if they make a 22 and can become an engineer, then their engineering program is probably worthless.
Second, yes. Low salary is why you don't have more teachers, but mainly it's the fact that teachers have no power over the kids to enforce discipline.
Third, superintendents are largely incompetent because they spent most of their career getting post-graduate degrees and not actually teaching. They have no idea how a real classroom works. Plus, a lot of them were affirmative action hires to attempt to get out from under federal desegregation orders.
Education sucks because the goal isn't education. It's diversity, indoctrination, and making sure those poor kids get to eat two meals a day.
Until discipline and consequences are re-introduced to the classroom, education will continue down this death spiral to uselessness. No amount of forced diversity or cash flow influx can fix it.
Second, yes. Low salary is why you don't have more teachers, but mainly it's the fact that teachers have no power over the kids to enforce discipline.
Third, superintendents are largely incompetent because they spent most of their career getting post-graduate degrees and not actually teaching. They have no idea how a real classroom works. Plus, a lot of them were affirmative action hires to attempt to get out from under federal desegregation orders.
Education sucks because the goal isn't education. It's diversity, indoctrination, and making sure those poor kids get to eat two meals a day.
Until discipline and consequences are re-introduced to the classroom, education will continue down this death spiral to uselessness. No amount of forced diversity or cash flow influx can fix it.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 8:21 am
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:26 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Lowering of standards is never a good idea. Especially when those standards are not difficult.
yes i legit chuckled when i saw the word "rigorous" used to describe LA teaching standards
i think pay may be an issue. the article says that the population of black teachers has decreased, and it clearly isn't b/c the standards have increased over the past few years. if you're a black person (esp a black woman) with a degree in LA you can get much better jobs than teaching, for the very reasoning behind this article (diversity)
a similar issue hurt LSU law school when i was there. the ABA was coming down hard on LSU for its lack of acceptable minority enrollment. the problem is that minority (especially black and latino) populations with typical "LSU scores" get into schools like Ivy Leagues (having a major HBCU with a law school really put LSU into a demographic grinder). LSU is a few tiers down so the "diversity admissions" requirements were insanely low, fricking the kids over. funny enough they had secret study sessions where a few teachers gave extra teaching and rumors of "teaching the test". it was a big deal when it was discovered
but it's the same thing with teachers. diversity hires make minority applicants with "teacher qualification" candidates for all sorts of jobs above the expected quality with those objective qualifications. why would they stay in teaching when they can get much better jobs that pay a frick ton better (With similar benefits)?
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:26 am to Oilfieldbiology
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You can graduate in engineering with a 2.0, and without having to pass any tests.
Uh... there’s the Fundementals of Engineering, Engineering Ethics, and the Priciples and Practice of Engineering exams. Add to that it’d be hard to get hired with a 2.0
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:28 am to Oilfieldbiology
I've said it 100 times and I'll keep saying it.
The DOE's INTENTIONAL dumbing down of our society has worked beyond their WILDEST dreams.
The DOE's INTENTIONAL dumbing down of our society has worked beyond their WILDEST dreams.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:30 am to Oilfieldbiology
I went to school when all white classes were taught by all white teachers and at another school close by all black classes were taught by all black teachers.
It was wrong then and it's wrong now.
These prople are crazy. They are going full circle except now they want higher pay.
It was wrong then and it's wrong now.
These prople are crazy. They are going full circle except now they want higher pay.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:30 am to bamarep
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dumbing down of our society
Also known as "liberalism"
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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"The 22s are not choosing to come into teacher education. And they're telling me it's because of the salary, too. They can go into engineering
obama would have made them air traffic controllers.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:32 am to Oilfieldbiology
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"The 22s are not choosing to come into teacher education. And they're telling me it's because of the salary, too. They can go into engineering and start off making double the salary they would make teaching.
22s are not becoming engineers lololol
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:32 am to Oilfieldbiology
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"And then to graduate, they have to pass PRAXIS II and have a 2.5 grade-point average. You can graduate in nursing or engineering with a 2.0, and without having to pass any tests."
well the nursing school statement is absurdly wrong.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:33 am to NikolaiJakov
As relates to the pay, it doesn’t help that all teacher’s salaries are fixed on a schedule set by experience. All first years earn the same, all second years earn the same, etc. Great, high quality teachers are forced to take in the same low salary as the crappiest teachers in the system.
So let’s fo a little econ 101. We lower the standards for teachers, it will increase their supply, which lowers the price they receive for their labor (i.e., their wage) even lower.
If the problem with the current wage level is that it drives away potentially good teachers from obtaining education degrees, exactly what do these people think is going to happen to the quality when they lower the wage even further?
So let’s fo a little econ 101. We lower the standards for teachers, it will increase their supply, which lowers the price they receive for their labor (i.e., their wage) even lower.
If the problem with the current wage level is that it drives away potentially good teachers from obtaining education degrees, exactly what do these people think is going to happen to the quality when they lower the wage even further?
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:33 am to Oilfieldbiology
This will surely fix the ailing schools. Please let it happen.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:33 am to Oilfieldbiology
This is never going to go away as long as people keep giving in out of fear of being labeled a racist.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:36 am to BamaChemE
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Uh... there’s the Fundementals of Engineering, Engineering Ethics, and the Priciples and Practice of Engineering exams. Add to that it’d be hard to get hired with a 2.0
Everyone I know who was around the 2.0 mark got into a business major before year 2.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:37 am to Oilfieldbiology
Sounds second world like.
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