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re: Lab leak theory has holes.

Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:42 am to
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Apparently the IC consensus, last April, was that it was intentionally leaked by the Chinese. They understood how we would react, and how it would hurt us more than it would hurt them.




I suspect the reason they stayed quiet and let it travel overseas was that they realized the world would quarantine China and that would crush them financially while the rest of the world went along fine. By letting it go global, they took everyone down with them.

Pretty simple equation.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123756 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:43 am to
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why hasnt covid 19 found in any animals?
It can be transmitted in populations of Neovison Mink. Mink farms provide the only current source of evidence for maintenance of naturally acquired infection in an animal population and spillback to humans.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17408 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:43 am to
My understanding is that Chineese labs do not follow the same safety guidelines that we do. Also, if you believe the bat soup theory, you are a fricking moron.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:44 am to
No it doesn’t. Are the CCP protecting the wet markets? No, you can go there today if you want to. They’re hiding that lab, and knowing the CCP, that’s all I need to know that it’s from there.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22770 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:47 am to
OK smart guy answer this. Why did China try o contain it in Wuhan by stopping travel to other Chinese cities, yet allow those same people to travel to other countries?

China, the DS, and the dim sheep herders love idiots like you doing their bidding. They laugh at your ilk the most. Laughing at how gullible yall are.
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:48 am to
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It came from China. It's the China Virus. That's all that matters.


That’s not all that matters. What other viruses are they sitting on in that lab? It should be burned to the ground and multiple people should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. Gain of function research should be absolutely banned and scares the frick out of me a hell of a lot more than nuclear holocaust. There are viruses that exist that could wipe out 50% of humanity, and then from there civilization will completely fall apart and we enter a dark age.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105375 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:48 am to
It was bio warfare.

And to cause fear.

Why did China take efforts with all the photos and video of people falling in the streets with blood and stuff to hype up the fear factor?

Did you ever see one American suddenly fall in the street and people with bio suits rushing with plastic bags to put the "stricken" virus infected people in?

What a failure of an OP.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31775 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:49 am to
To summarize an example made from russell brand which is essentially Occam’s razor

If you work at sherwin Williams and you walk by covered in paint then my first question is what the hell kind of a day was it at sherwin Williams.


If you respond surprised at the question and say oh no I had a great day at work I was just walking home and a bird was carrying a paint can and it dumped on me then that would be really really weird right?


The fact that there is an institution doing that kind of research in the place the outbreak started and we were told not only that it didn’t come from there but that if you think it came from there you are a conspiracy theorist kook tells me they are hiding something
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:54 am to
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Truth NC; it’s been reported that China prevented travel in China to Wuhan residents, but allowed global travel. Is there any dispute in that? That’s an act of war...is it not?


Yes. I feel bad for the Chinese people, but as far as I’m concerned the CCP launched cruise missiles to every country in the world.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:56 am to
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Non-scientists who push the lab theory are fond of saying that it was "gain of function" experiments at Wuhan Virology that produced the virus. This is borderline woo. Gain of function sounds menacing but it is a basic experimental tool.


lol

People use the term because that is the term. Not because it "sounds menacing".
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3332 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:04 am to
And lest we forget, this activity was partially funded by US taxpayer dollars.
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 10:05 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:06 am to
I'm willing to believe anything, but there are distinct molecular questions posed by the virus that make me skeptical of any directed intent. It seems far more likely that a sample from anywhere in China, associated with an unknown respiratory disease, was handled carelessly by the lab, and the Chinese government decided not to stop the spread because of the effect it would have on trade.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32194 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:15 am to
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All that the Op typed may be true
He didn't type that. Copy and paste his first paragraph into your search engine.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26104 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:16 am to
I still hold firm to the wet market/ bat soup hypothesis.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32194 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:18 am to
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tarzana


quote:

I still hold firm to the wet market/ bat soup hypothesis.
Of course you do. That's how y'all roll.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18053 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:22 am to
Learn about Occam's Razor:

Occam's Razor

Now apply it:
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Member since Dec 2013
11828 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:23 am to
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And that diversity of reactions--the fact that it actually does NOT act the way a weapon would--is what has made it much more difficult to contain than SARS was, for example. This virus does not act like a weapon anyone would design--it is not AT ALL like other known bioweapons.


Just because it isn't a 'typical' bioweapon doesn't mean it wasn't intended for that very purpose. There are all kinds of weapons. Some are invasive and devastating, like an nuclear weapon. Some are foreign policies in the form hard-core tariffs or sanctions.

I submit to you that the China Virus is clearly 100% perfect tool as a bioweapon. It is absolutely devastating to the enemy, long-lasting with no need for secondary attacks, and easily contained with the correct knowledge of what the weapon actually is and consequences of usage.

The primary by-product of the attack is fear. The actual destruction to human life is minimal. That is a perfect bioweapon. Combine that with the whole "oopsie, we didn't mean to do this" routine by the attacker, it sets up a scenario where the attack can be initiated without fear of retaliation.

That, my friend, is a perfect bioweapon. And it is exactly the highly intelligent thinking and diabolical thinking that the Chinese Government would invent.

I think the bioweapon story is a much more plausible, logical, and realistic answer than just a "wow, talk about coincidence... we accidentally had a bat get out of our lab and kill the world's economy devastating our enemies while we have been able to successfully maneuver to strengthen our position as a global economic and military power. Are we fricking lucky, or what!?"
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60577 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:26 am to
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The CCCP remained silent and let infected people travel the world, effectively dispersing the virus in a weapon like fashion.
They were worse than silent, they straight up lied about it

"not transmissible human to human"
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:27 am to
Now do Trump + Russia collusion.



Wanker
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:28 am to
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Also, if you believe the bat soup theory, you are a fricking moron.


quote:

I still hold firm to the wet market/ bat soup hypothesis.



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tarzana


There are times in life when someone does something or says something and you think, "wow, I'm really surprised by that."

This is not one of those times.
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