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blackinthesaddle
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LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
On the day the police officer who shot her was exonerated, I went back and watched the terrifying footage of Ashli Babbitt’s death during the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.
It had been months since I’d seen it, and I had forgotten how frightening it was, the kind of scene we see all the time in the movies — transformed suddenly into a shocking, violent reality.
In the seven months since she was killed, Babbitt has become a martyr to the far right. In the twisted revisionist narrative being pushed by former President Trump and his supporters, she was a peaceful demonstrator — an “innocent, wonderful, incredible woman” — who was unjustifiably murdered by the police even though she posed no danger.

But that’s not what the video shows. Her death was a tragedy, to be sure — but it was hardly an unjustified murder.
In our first view of Babbitt on the video she’s at the front of an angry mob trying to get through to the “Speaker’s Lobby,” where members of Congress and staff are holed up. She’s screaming at the police, apparently demanding entry.
The crowd is surging. It’s at the doors. “F— the blue!” can be heard. People are bashing at the glass panels on the doors with sticks and flagpoles. Several police officers are doing their best to hold back an entire crowd, but it seems like a losing battle. “Break it down,” yells the crowd.
Members of Congress can be seen on the other side of the door. Also on the other side of the door is a police lieutenant holding a gun, pointing it at the mob, an unmistakable warning to stay back.
But Babbit decides instead — although it’s a little hard to see on the video — to climb through the shattered glass window into the Speaker’s Lobby, past the police barricade, toward the pointed gun. If she is allowed through, it seems inevitable that the mob will follow.
As she climbs through, a single shot is fired and she drops to the floor.
On Monday, the U.S. Capitol Police declared the shooting lawful, and said it would not pursue disciplinary charges against the lieutenant who killed Babbitt. That follows April’s decision by the Department of Justice not to bring criminal charges against the officer. Neither agency named the lieutenant, for his own safety.
“An officer may use deadly force only when the officer reasonably believes that action is in the defense of human life, including the officer’s own life, or in the defense of any person in immediate danger of serious physical injury,” wrote the Capitol Police’s Office of Professional Responsibility.
The actions of the officer in this case potentially saved members [of Congress] and staff from serious injury and possible death from a large crowd of rioters.
I’m not a forensics expert, nor am I a cop. I haven’t interviewed the witnesses or seen any more evidence than what I’ve described. But my normal human reaction to the video tells me that the Capitol Police and the Justice Department are absolutely right.
I watched it repeatedly. Babbitt crossed a line that had been clearly delineated. The police obviously felt it was a last stand. The potential danger was obvious. Babbitt’s shooting appears to have stopped the forward movement of the crowd. All this happened on a day when the vice president’s life had been threatened, and when police were being savagely beaten elsewhere in the building.
Could the mob possibly have been stopped without Babbitt’s death? Maybe. Perhaps there was a way to have avoided deadly force. But it’s not clear to me what that way would have been — and it is clear that if Babbitt had gone through that doorway, an out-of-control situation would have deteriorated further.
From the moment the trigger was pulled by the anonymous police officer it was inevitable that Babbitt would become a martyr to the right. She was a 35-year-old Air Force veteran from San Diego, a vehement supporter of the former president and an adherent of the conspiracy theories of Q-Anon.
No one should be surprised by the signs at rallies that call her a “protester murdered by the Capitol Police.” Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Arizona) described the shooting as “an execution.”
But it is the involvement of Trump himself that really threatens to turn the narrative on its head. Trump has asked why the Capitol Police officer is “getting away with murder.” He asked repeatedly: “Who Shot Ashli Babbitt?” This month, escalating his rhetoric, he said, more chillingly: “We know who he is.”
On Fox News with Trump, host Maria Bartiromo described Babbitt as a woman who went to a “peaceful protest.” And Trump put it in the context of us versus them. “If this happened to the ‘other side,’” he said in a statement, “there would be riots all over America… The Radical Left haters cannot be allowed to get away with this. There must be justice.”
"There was no reason for it," Trump said of her shooting.
But there was a reason.
Americans need to remember that, and not be fooled. In these days when the truth has been devalued, when everything can be spun, where facts are malleable and can be dismantled and reassembled to tell an entirely different story — remember at least the clearcut images on the video.

These weren’t peaceful demonstrators. These weren’t protesters exercising their constitutionally protected right to calmly express differences of opinion with their elected representatives.
They were bashing down the doors.
This was a riot, Ashli Babbitt was at its vanguard and, based on what I’ve seen, the police officer who shot her was doing his job.
@Nick_Goldberg
This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.

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HubbaBubba
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
@Nick_Goldberg is a pussy soy boy.


Lynxrufus2012
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
she should have set fire to something , then she would have been peaceful, like those burning the federal courthouse and church.

If an unarmed black woman stepped through a broken window in Louisville and was shot, the Breonna Taylor fallout would have seemed like child's play.

Funny how Obama took the side of the "Gentle Giant" in Ferguson but is silent about this 100 pound woman.
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ApexTiger
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
She didn't listen to the officer pointing gun at her

I got nothing from here on this case


you don't kick your way into a federal buildings with a gun pointed at your head "stop"

she didn't listen

end of story


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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
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These weren’t peaceful demonstrators. These weren’t protesters exercising their constitutionally protected right to calmly express differences of opinion with their elected representatives.
They were bashing down the doors.
This was a riot, Ashli Babbitt was at its vanguard and, based on what I’ve seen, the police officer who shot her was doing his job.

An objectively correct assessment.


CamdenTiger
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
That’s just dumb. There were officers with M16’s all around her, why didn’t they feel threatened? Why just this guy? She’s sure as hell didn't warrant lethal force. C’mon….


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Bulldogblitz
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
Gotta hand to the pearl clutch libruls, they are all gasping in lock step over January 6.

So what threat was an unarmed female to the cop that outweighs her by 100 pounds?


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VoxDawg
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
Shameful.


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BlackAdam
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
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Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester



So the media now supports shooting non-compliant violent, but unarmed protesters?


Bulldogblitz
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
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An objectively correct assessment.


It matches your presence on this board, should you be shot?


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MightyYat
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
It's quite a coincidence that this is all of a sudden a big story again, huh? The media has their marching orders to get the heat off of the complete shite show going on in Washington. This is textbook shifting of the current narrative.


MightyYat
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
Just remember how Kyle Rittenhouse is/was treated by these slimy media fricks and the losers he shot were actively attacking him.


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TigerAxeOK
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
This is fricking blatant bull shite because the anqueefa "reporter" was allowed through the window before Babbitt, and moved far back enough to be just in time to film the murder and then run up to Babbitt to film her lifeless body on the ground.

The goddamn communists at the LAT and other "media" sources need to be labeled as domestic terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

Why didn't they stop the black anqueefa reporter? Was he less of a threat? He entered before Babbitt.

I hate media with the burning fire of ten million suns.


Turbeauxdog
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
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An objectively correct assessment.


Nope loon.

Your ilk set the standard. This doesn't meet it.


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Auburn1968
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
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“F— the blue!” can be heard. People are bashing at the glass panels on the doors with sticks and flagpoles. Several police officers are doing their best to hold back an entire crowd, but it seems like a losing battle. “Break it down,” yells the crowd.


It wasn't a riot. It was a protest that was generally more tame than the Kavanaugh protests.

JaydenX was videoing his fellow Antifa glass breakers at the door. Elsewhere, a cluster of Antifa/BLM were using an American flag on a pole trying to do the same thing until a big old Trump supporter rescued the flag. Those are the parts that can be called riotous.


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RiverCityTider
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
Law And Order is swift and merciless when it comes to the right.

It's no where to be seen when it comes to the left.

I hope this guy gets justice somehow.


jatilen
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
The same rag that called Larry Elder a white supremacist


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MightyYat
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
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Why didn't they stop the black anqueefa reporter? Was he less of a threat? He entered before Babbitt.


Ummmmmmm, this never happened. He was just in the crowd.


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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
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police lieutenant


Michael Leroy Byrd


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Kjnstkmn
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re: LA Times Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester
By this standard the police would be shooting protestors left and right every time they jumped a barricade or refused to comply to any order. Would be hundreds of dead Antifa, Proud boys, etc... all over the place. He should have emptied his gun on all of the rest of them, we would have had our own Bloody Wednesday and maybe our own US version of the IRA instead of all of this sheep laying down we continue to have. They did pretty good against jets and nukes.
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