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La. Tax on Small Biz Deemed Unconstitutional - LDR says "too bad" on $70M paid into it

Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:56 pm
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A court ruling last week means Louisiana residents, also doing business in Texas, who were taxed multiple times on income from their LLC or S corporations should look into getting a tax refund, according to the Louisiana Association of Business and Industry.

But the Louisiana Supreme Court last week ruled the act unconstitutional, saying it violates the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution because the total tax burden on interstate commerce was higher than the burden on business conducted within the state.


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“From our perspective, we think the state has collected somewhere between $60 million and $80 million on this unconstitutional tax,” says LABI President Stephen Waguespack, referencing the fiscal note attached to the 2015 legislation that predicted $33.6 million in annual tax revenue.


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However, during a meeting of the Revenue Estimating Conference this morning, department secretary Kimberly Robinson said they weren’t expecting to dole out refunds to anyone who didn’t pay under protest.

“One taxpayer paid under protest and received $23,000, but there are no other payments under protest,” Robinson said. “You have to pay under protest to challenge the statute. If the taxpayer already filed a return and did not pay it under protest, they would have to file a claim at the Board of Tax Appeals, and that’s somewhat limited also.”



This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 3:57 pm
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:59 pm to
wow. more taxes jbe
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:01 pm to
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department secretary Kimberly Robinson said they weren’t expecting to dole out refunds to anyone who didn’t pay under protest.


I'm thinking you need to make her life miserable at work
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:02 pm to
Well, JBE wasn't Governor in 2015. But my assumption is he voted for this legislation and the LDR Secretary Robinson is his appointee.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:03 pm to
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I'm thinking you need to make her life miserable at work



I don't have a dollar held up in this issue. I'll leave the lines open for the people that were impacted. My public protest of these types of activities will remain here.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 4:14 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47867 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:04 pm to
I don’t think Kimberly is correct. If the board refuses to hear a case or rules against a taxpayer, it can be appealed to the district court. Additionally, if a law is unconstitutional, it will be argued that a prescription period on monies paid pursuant to that law would be unconstitutional. Finally, taxpayers can amend their returns....or file in federal court. Lots of avenues.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94645 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:05 pm to
Unfortunately this is SOP for any taxing authority.

You get it wrong? You get fricked.

They get it wrong? You get fricked.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:06 pm to
I don’t think anyone needs to change anything to make her miserable. Just an observation.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:07 pm to
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Finally, taxpayers can amend their returns....or file in federal court. Lots of avenues.


Wouldn't the right thing to do on LDR's part is just refund the payments? Why should the taxpayer be responsible for recouping an egregious error made by the State?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94645 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:08 pm to
Yeah, like Sloth will give up any of the money he’s collected to anyone but his buddies.


The state will take the “FYNQ” position until a federal court rules they have to pay it back plus interest and damages.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:09 pm to
Of course. But that isn’t happening.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:09 pm to
This is so Louisiana.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94645 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:10 pm to
This may be a rallying cry for the state GOP if they are smart.

They aren’t, though.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35822 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:12 pm to
LOL
Posted by WesternChauvinist
Member since Sep 2018
445 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:24 pm to
Pretty big middle finger to Louisiana businesses by the JBE administration.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:40 pm to
The LDR are damn thief’s.

I had to take my refund case to the Board of tax appeals and at the second hearing the board was getting pissed at them. They were wrong and just refused to pay, when I scheduled the 3rd hearing they finally cut a check.

I hate the LDR
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:42 pm to
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However, during a meeting of the Revenue Estimating Conference this morning, department secretary Kimberly Robinson said they weren’t expecting to dole out refunds to anyone who didn’t pay under protest.


I have a feeling there are about to be some protests as that particular decision gets brought before the Court as well
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94645 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:44 pm to
What do you bet that some enterprising tax lawyers decide to start a class action to recover the money?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:45 pm to
It may not have been malice. It may have just been incompetence.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 6:29 pm to


Ain't nobody getting my money


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