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Kurt Eichenwald has tweeted about the virus
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:53 pm
quote:
Stop talking about percents. Let's talk about dead children.
57 million kids attend schools.
Assume a ridiculously low infection rate of 2% - that's 1,140,000 children sick. Assume a death rate of 0.5%. That's almost 6,000 dead children. Like two 9/11s, with just kids
Is it possible to have a more facile, clickbait take than this? Just off the top of my head:
--The death rate for children is way way way lower than .5%. The overall population death rate is likely to be only that or lower. Kids are maybe like .05%
--Doesn't even establish a baseline - he just takes as a given that not re-opening schools = 0 child infections/deaths. Also, just takes as a given that schools being open when there is no coronavirus = 0 deaths
--When theoretically doing a cost/benefit analysis, ONLY considers the COSTS...AND even then, only along the vector he cares about. This means he ignores the impact of prolonged periods of "remote learning" on student outcomes. I'll bet he's very very publicly concerned with inequality also - yet causing already vulnerable student populations to fall even further behind by ruining years of their schooling (thus impacting their career outcomes) doesn't seem to bother him at all
--Completely ignores the acceptable deaths we absorb daily from the very act of keeping schools open during normal times. We don't have a "cure" for automobile crashes or any other infectious diseases that kill children with no warning every year.
This cult of "safety-ism" bothers me maybe even more than the cancel culture shite going on.
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:55 pm to Big Scrub TX
Didn't Trump say he's going to defund the schools if they remain closed?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:56 pm to Big Scrub TX
If we can save just one life! Unless of course that life hasn't been birthed yet, then it's Katie bar the door....
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:56 pm to Big Scrub TX
It's looking like .0005%
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:05 am to Big Scrub TX
Tell Eichenwald we purposely murder hundreds of thousands of our kids per year, and no one bats an eye.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:08 am to Big Scrub TX
Let's call it 0.01% or 114 kids would die. These 114 should not be in school. Kids with cancer, morbidly obese, leukemia, or other pre-existing conditions will have to stay home. Let's say there are 250,000 of these kids nation wide. They stay home and the rest can go to school. Death rate should drop to near 0, if not 0.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:13 am to Big Scrub TX
Neil Ferguson wants someone to hold his beer.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:13 am to Big Scrub TX
California has 0 deaths under 17.
Cases in that age range only make up 8.3% of cases despite that demographic being 22.5% of the total population.
LINK
In Missouri, 19 and under has had 2207 confirmed cases out of 26,000 cases. 8.4% of cases. And similarly, about 25% of the population is 19 and under. 0 deaths.
Are we ok opening up with zero deaths?
I feel like zero is a good number.
Cases in that age range only make up 8.3% of cases despite that demographic being 22.5% of the total population.
LINK
In Missouri, 19 and under has had 2207 confirmed cases out of 26,000 cases. 8.4% of cases. And similarly, about 25% of the population is 19 and under. 0 deaths.
Are we ok opening up with zero deaths?
I feel like zero is a good number.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:14 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:
This cult of "safety-ism" bothers me maybe even more than the cancel culture shite going on.
Maybe "the end of the World" is really happening sooner than later?
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:14 am to Tunasntigers92
quote:
Didn't Trump say he's going to defund the schools if they remain closed?
He can’t—at least not in Texas.
Plus, education in the US is decentralized (states and local authorities have power over their public schools and higher education).
Federal funds only count for something like 5% of Texas Public school funding.
Additionally, Texas didn’t adopt the Common Core State Standards; so we don’t owe the feds for that monetary incentive.
Local property taxes (collected by school districts) and the State of Texas funds the remaining 95% of public school costs.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:16 am to EKG
quote:
He can’t—at least not in Texas.
I wonder if there are any other states he can't do that in?
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:19 am to the808bass
Florida has had 3 deaths 17 and under. 11,516 cases. That’s a CFR of 0.0002.
That’s close to Eichenwald’s 0.5, right? Oh; it’s 25 times smaller? I wonder what that does to his estimates.
That’s close to Eichenwald’s 0.5, right? Oh; it’s 25 times smaller? I wonder what that does to his estimates.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 1:01 am
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:20 am to Tunasntigers92
quote:
I wonder if there are any other states he can't do that in?
Louisiana?
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:38 am to Big Scrub TX
Already know that guys a total psycho, but he’s just making up percentages to scare people. None of what he says is remotely close to reality.
ETA: he blocked me the first time I replied to him on twatter so I can’t see his tweets anymore
ETA: he blocked me the first time I replied to him on twatter so I can’t see his tweets anymore
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 12:40 am
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:49 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:It appears CV19 is 2-to-3-fold LESS LETHAL to children than is influenza. So I guess Kurt wants schools shutdown from Oct-Mar every year?
Kurt Eichenwald has tweeted about the virus
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:50 am to PowerTool
The “I need a safe space” mentality with the Milenials years back started all this. “I need to live in a bubble with no threats”.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:58 am to Tunasntigers92
quote:
Didn't Trump say he's going to defund the schools if they remain closed?
Yes; he said that. That doesn’t mean it will happen. That was a PR stunt. Federal funding makes up 10% or less of school funding, and he can’t change what Congress has already allocated for this year.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 1:00 am to the808bass
Iowa - 0 deaths - 17 and under
Nebraska - 0 deaths - 19 and under
Illinois - 1 death under 19, 5.1k cases (0.0002)
Kentucky - 1 death <19, 1.5k cases (.0006)
Tennessee - 3 deaths, 8.4k cases (0.0003)
Arkansas - 0 deaths under 17
Louisiana - 3 deaths <17, 4.5k cases (0.0006)
Mississippi - 0 deaths, 3.1k cases
Georgia - 1 death, 7.1k cases (<=17)
S. Carolina - 0 deaths, 7k cases
Nebraska - 0 deaths - 19 and under
Illinois - 1 death under 19, 5.1k cases (0.0002)
Kentucky - 1 death <19, 1.5k cases (.0006)
Tennessee - 3 deaths, 8.4k cases (0.0003)
Arkansas - 0 deaths under 17
Louisiana - 3 deaths <17, 4.5k cases (0.0006)
Mississippi - 0 deaths, 3.1k cases
Georgia - 1 death, 7.1k cases (<=17)
S. Carolina - 0 deaths, 7k cases
Posted on 7/10/20 at 1:00 am to Steadmans Cheddar
quote:
and he can’t change what Congress has already allocated for this year.
Then why would he say it?
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