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Kari Lake Appeals
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:44 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:44 am
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"our attorneys just filed a notice for appeal because of what we've discovered with the system log files, which show that they did secretive testing on three different dates and we now have the video to back that up. And that was not available to us because Maricopa County, the people who committed the crime against the people, held that information from us."
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:50 am to Herooftheday
I respect Lake for not giving up on her fight to prove the AZ 2022 election was likely rigged against her but there's no judge who's going to get twisted up in an election fraud shite show.....no standing...laches.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:25 am to Bass Tiger
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there's no judge who's going to get twisted up in an election fraud shite show.....no standing...laches.
Better than doing nothing. At the very least there will be a record of the question of "how" and "who" and the minimum level of authority required to do something like that. It's odd that when the judge falls in line that he's not really brought up again after the ruling. But any other judge would be rioted, doxxed and met outside of the courtroom. Supreme Court Justices, for example. We are the party of "Thank you, may I have another?"
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:30 am to Bass Tiger
Which is another thing she keeps showing us is an issue with our judicial system.
Needs to figure out how to get it out of AZ county that she is fighting.
For all we know cartels are involved in the background.
The Desantis crew like to bash her, but she is doing more than anyone to fight for what she believes is true. Respect her for that at least.
Needs to figure out how to get it out of AZ county that she is fighting.
For all we know cartels are involved in the background.
The Desantis crew like to bash her, but she is doing more than anyone to fight for what she believes is true. Respect her for that at least.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:32 am to Bass Tiger
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I respect Lake for not giving up on her fight to prove the AZ 2022 election was likely rigged against her but there's no judge who's going to get twisted up in an election fraud shite show.....no standing...laches
All about putting a spotlight on Maricopa for 2024 baws. Not about overturning the election.
Playing the long game for republicans in Arizona for the 24 cycle .
People that live in Arizona are not happy with the 22 election. Know a bunch. It’s covered way more locally than it has been nationally.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:09 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:37 am to KAGTASTIC
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The Desantis crew like to bash her, but she is doing more than anyone to fight for what she believes is true. Respect her for that at least.
man oh man the Ron Bots would go crazy if this led to the overturning of the 2020 election
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:51 am to Bass Tiger
No facts, no proof, nothing but whining and lies. All judges, even trump judges expect real evidence that can be proven here in the real world.
Even if laches and standing, don't law suits have to have some proffer of evidence? Yet nobody has looked at these public records to "trumpet" any evidence to gateway feces or OANanist news?
Qsteal stupid is not a recipe for real life navigation.
Even if laches and standing, don't law suits have to have some proffer of evidence? Yet nobody has looked at these public records to "trumpet" any evidence to gateway feces or OANanist news?
Qsteal stupid is not a recipe for real life navigation.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:59 am to TGFN57
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No facts, no proof, nothing but whining and lies. All judges, even trump judges expect real evidence that can be proven here in the real world.
Didn't she show them approving hundreds of thousands of sigs in under three seconds? And the judge took it as following procedure "in some fashion". It looks like there's a way around even proof.
"This isn’t a question of not doing it well enough,” he said. “They’re simply not doing signature verification."
Judge: "Well, technically they are facing the computer the whole time. That's good enough".
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:02 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:04 am to TGFN57
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:33 am to Bass Tiger
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but there's no judge who's going to get twisted up in an election fraud shite show
Which is fine. Just means it will get to the Supremes. Who have already intervened on the 2000 election. They didnt seem to mind then
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:36 am to TGFN57
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No facts, no proof, nothing but whining and lies. All judges, even trump judges expect real evidence that can be proven here in the real world.
"Just wait till the discovery..."
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:37 am to TigerAttorney
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People that live in Arizona are not happy with the 22 election. Know a bunch. It’s covered way more locally than it has been nationally.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:40 am to Message Board User
You must return the diamonds.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:44 am to Herooftheday
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idn't she show them approving hundreds of thousands of sigs in under three seconds?
No, she didn't.
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Judge: "Well, technically they are facing the computer the whole time. That's good enough".
Can you link us to this quote? I'm sure the judge said it given you have the statement in quotation marks, but I've never seen this.
At any rate, it was Lake's own attorneys that set the bar at there being no signature verification done, that it wasn't a qualitative/accuracy thing. And then their own first witness at trial went on and on about how much training she got to do sig verification, how serious she took the job, etc. Essentially ending the most recent trial as it started.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:45 am to Herooftheday
I’m fine with Lake appealing. But the parts I watched of her “signature verification” trial were not impressive to me, and her chances of success on appeal aren’t good. She’s basically appealing a factual determination by the fact finder and those never work. Plus. The new evidence she’s talking about on this video - wouldn’t have changed anything on either the 1st trial or the second.
I believe that there was fraud in the Arizona Gov election, precisely bc of the shady shite on video. But proving that there were bad actors isn’t enough to win a court case.
Basically Lake’s second case showed very persuasive evidence that the ppl doing the verification (comparison) of signatures did so in less than 3 seconds for a significant number signatures - outside the margin of victory. Intuitively that’s not a lot of time, but I will say it’s more time than it would take a typical driver to “see perceive and react” to a traffic problem (the oh shite factor, usually is roughly 2 seconds).
In what makes no sense to me, her lawyers made no evidence of the minimum amount of time that it would have taken to have performed a meaningful comparison. If I would have tried the case, I would have done that some kind of way. (How much time would it have taken for someone to see the original signature, compare another signature on file, and then approve or reject the signature). Her lawyers argument that 3 seconds or less was not enough time was speculative. They should have presented some kind of evidence about how much time the process should take (besides a rough estimate of some bureaucrat about how much time he thinks it should have taken).
There was a hole in the case there and I don’t think Lake filled it. She’s certainly not filling it with this new voting machine video.
She would have to revive one of her other claims with this new evidence, and again - she’s going to run into the same problem with her first case (which I thought was better). There’s no way to know how many voters didn’t vote bc of the screw up, fake or manufactured. I think that she did that with her statistical experts in the first case, but that poster David who lives in Arizona did not. So probably no change in result of Kari Lake’s original or second case.
I believe that there was fraud in the Arizona Gov election, precisely bc of the shady shite on video. But proving that there were bad actors isn’t enough to win a court case.
Basically Lake’s second case showed very persuasive evidence that the ppl doing the verification (comparison) of signatures did so in less than 3 seconds for a significant number signatures - outside the margin of victory. Intuitively that’s not a lot of time, but I will say it’s more time than it would take a typical driver to “see perceive and react” to a traffic problem (the oh shite factor, usually is roughly 2 seconds).
In what makes no sense to me, her lawyers made no evidence of the minimum amount of time that it would have taken to have performed a meaningful comparison. If I would have tried the case, I would have done that some kind of way. (How much time would it have taken for someone to see the original signature, compare another signature on file, and then approve or reject the signature). Her lawyers argument that 3 seconds or less was not enough time was speculative. They should have presented some kind of evidence about how much time the process should take (besides a rough estimate of some bureaucrat about how much time he thinks it should have taken).
There was a hole in the case there and I don’t think Lake filled it. She’s certainly not filling it with this new voting machine video.
She would have to revive one of her other claims with this new evidence, and again - she’s going to run into the same problem with her first case (which I thought was better). There’s no way to know how many voters didn’t vote bc of the screw up, fake or manufactured. I think that she did that with her statistical experts in the first case, but that poster David who lives in Arizona did not. So probably no change in result of Kari Lake’s original or second case.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:45 am to David_DJS
Kari Lake makes Stacey Abrams look sane.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:46 am to Herooftheday
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:46 am to KAGTASTIC
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she is doing more than anyone to grift
FIFY
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:50 am to Wednesday
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Her lawyers argument that 3 seconds or less was not enough time was speculative. They should have presented some kind of evidence
I can compare signatures in 2 seconds. less really. everyone not riding the short bus can.
you'd be surprised to see video of the activity.
eyes dart back and forth so fast.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:52 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:50 am to KAGTASTIC
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For all we know cartels are involved in the background.
Again?
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The Desantis crew like to bash her, but she is doing more than anyone to fight for what she believes is true. Respect her for that at least.
She has set actual election reform back in Arizona because she focused her efforts and your money on claims that were easily shut down. Her legal team has been a clown show. They're awful.
Signature verification and ballot custody are legit issues. Competent people should have been working these rather than KL wasting time/attention on 19" ballots, tabulators and tens of thousands of disenfranchised KL voters that had all cast ballots.
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