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Just ran across this Alexander Hamilton quote again. My, oh, my.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:16 pm
"The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.
Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”
I'd say that Hamilton was 100% prescient of a Trump-type regime, except that "possessed of considerable talents" should be replaced with "possessed of endless shamelessness".
But, my word, on a day when somebody posted here that every facet of Western civilization is under attack... how fitting for these times.
Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”
I'd say that Hamilton was 100% prescient of a Trump-type regime, except that "possessed of considerable talents" should be replaced with "possessed of endless shamelessness".
But, my word, on a day when somebody posted here that every facet of Western civilization is under attack... how fitting for these times.
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:17 pm to Rex
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:17 pm to Rex
Someone should file a lawsuit!
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:18 pm to Rex
We thought you wuz ded
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:18 pm to Rex
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Rex
i regret 4 others have already downvoted before i was able to click into this thread.
have a 5th.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:18 pm to Rex
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:19 pm to wartiger2004
quote:Naw he couldn't handle it around here and now that the midterms are over his pussy feels safe enough to emerge, therefore he has cast his alter aside.
We thought you wuz ded
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:19 pm to Rex
Wow, you come up for air from pumping your dog?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:20 pm to wartiger2004
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We thought you wuz ded
We hoped***
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:20 pm to Rex
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flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion
You mean like "You didn't build that" and "get in their faces"?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:21 pm to Rex
I only regret that I could only be the 7th down vote for the OP using this quote from a founder completely out of context.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:23 pm to Rex
quote:He's alive
Rex
And on a positive note, that quote could apply to President Barack Obama as well.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:24 pm to Rex
A few more good ones from Hamilton...
"A sacred respect for the constitutional law is the vital principle, the sustaining energy of a free government."
"It's not tyranny we desire; it's a just, limited, federal government."
"Hold my beer. I can shoot better than anyone."
"I'm an excellent driver."
Is there really anything worse than a pseudo-intellectual?
"A sacred respect for the constitutional law is the vital principle, the sustaining energy of a free government."
"It's not tyranny we desire; it's a just, limited, federal government."
"Hold my beer. I can shoot better than anyone."
"I'm an excellent driver."
Is there really anything worse than a pseudo-intellectual?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:24 pm to Rex
quote:
The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.
The largest threat with respect to the above quote is the left, not the right. It's practically the extreme left playbook.
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When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune
This isn't Trump.
ETA grammars
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:27 pm to Rex
You do realize Hamilton wanted Washington to be crowned “King”, right? At several occurances, Hamilton attempted to convince Washington to overthrow the continental congress and install himself as dictator. He also tried to convince him to offer titles of nobility, and to suspend elections in the wake of the Whiskey Rebellion, and to serve as president for life.
But I guess a snazzy out of context quote works just as well.
But I guess a snazzy out of context quote works just as well.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:28 pm to Rex
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I'd say that Hamilton was 100% prescient of a political group that relies primarily on identity politics and outrage like the DNC
Fixed.
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The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.
Or to put it more commonly, "Please, Dear Government, protect us from the evil wypipo! - The Left"
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:29 pm to Rex
After 8 years of King F*cknuts Odumbf*ck (I have a pen and a phone) and you're just finding this quote relevant?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:30 pm to Rex
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When a man unprincipled in private life
Trump is principled, believes in America, doesn't drink, do drugs, but exists in the system accompanied to him
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desperate in his fortune
Trump has his own money, and is donating his salary...he isn't desperate in his fortune
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bold in his temper
I did see him beating people up on WWE
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possessed of considerable talents
You say he isn't talented...
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having the advantage of military habits
Muh bone spur...seriously, though, he knows Sun Tzu and is well versed in chess, so maybe well enough
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despotic in his ordinary demeanour
Not true, he has not thrown out the Legislative branch and has even supported the Judicial by appointing judges
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known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty
He didn't scoff, but he has published an EO about taking people's shite...who are caught trafficking
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:35 pm to wartiger2004
Dog pageant season must be over.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:36 pm to Ten Bears
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A few more good ones from Hamilton...
"A sacred respect for the constitutional law is the vital principle, the sustaining energy of a free government."
"It's not tyranny we desire; it's a just, limited, federal government."
"Hold my beer. I can shoot better than anyone."
"I'm an excellent driver."
Is there really anything worse than a pseudo-intellectual?
...and another.
"I really wasn't a black man"
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