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Judges order Maryland to draw new congressional map for 2020
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:33 pm
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'The three-judge panel’s decision, issued one day after the midterm elections, orders the state to submit the new map by March 7. Otherwise, the court will appoint a commission to produce a redistricting plan for use in the 2020 congressional election.
Several Republican voters sued over the boundaries of one of Maryland’s eight congressional districts, claiming state officials unfairly redrew it in 2011 to favor Democrats.'
Wednesday’s decision, written by 4th U.S. Circuit Court Judge Paul Niemeyer, says the state’s 2011 congressional map removed roughly 66,000 Republican voters from the 6th district and added around 24,000 Democratic voters, “bringing about the single greatest alteration of voter makeup in any district in the Nation following the 2010 census.”
Niemeyer is a Reagan appointee.
'The three-judge panel’s decision, issued one day after the midterm elections, orders the state to submit the new map by March 7. Otherwise, the court will appoint a commission to produce a redistricting plan for use in the 2020 congressional election.
Several Republican voters sued over the boundaries of one of Maryland’s eight congressional districts, claiming state officials unfairly redrew it in 2011 to favor Democrats.'
Wednesday’s decision, written by 4th U.S. Circuit Court Judge Paul Niemeyer, says the state’s 2011 congressional map removed roughly 66,000 Republican voters from the 6th district and added around 24,000 Democratic voters, “bringing about the single greatest alteration of voter makeup in any district in the Nation following the 2010 census.”
Niemeyer is a Reagan appointee.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:35 pm to conservativewifeymom
But only the GOP gerrymanders!
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:35 pm to conservativewifeymom
Damn that would be a nice pickup for the GOP
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:37 pm to TigersSEC2010
It would be very sweet!
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:38 pm to conservativewifeymom
Why does nobody say a damn thing about the crazy louisiana district that runs from New Orleans snaking along the river all the way into baton rouge?
Look at this shite
Look at this shite
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:41 pm to Catman88
You know why....... we all know why
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:42 pm to Catman88
Because the red is all black people silly goose
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:42 pm to Catman88
Current interpretation of the VRA is that we are supposed to have a “set aside” district which is minority majority.
It was easier to get away with that shite in the 90s when the 2nd CD was pretty much Orleans Parish on its own. Post-Katrina, things are getting fricky trying to keep a black district in existence.
It was easier to get away with that shite in the 90s when the 2nd CD was pretty much Orleans Parish on its own. Post-Katrina, things are getting fricky trying to keep a black district in existence.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:43 pm to Catman88
Why don't y'all try doing what they did in MD?
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:45 pm to conservativewifeymom
Probly cuts both ways ... Republicans lost 4 seats in PA mainly due to redistricting but does that really matter?
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:47 pm to teke184
I thought the VRA is no longer in effect
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:49 pm to Catman88
quote:
Why does nobody say a damn thing about the crazy louisiana district that runs from New Orleans snaking along the river all the way into baton rouge?
Look at this shite
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:33 pm to Bourre
The consent decree just expired. Pretty sure VRA is still in place for now.
Even if it has lapsed, we haven’t had a redistricting since that took place.
Even if it has lapsed, we haven’t had a redistricting since that took place.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:36 pm to conservativewifeymom
This must be the voter suppression aggiehank was taking about.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:38 pm to conservativewifeymom
Like I said in the voter fraud thread, confessional districting should be based solely on population and geography, and minimizing the variability between and within districts. And other than maybe tweaking a boundary to align with the nearest street or road so not to cut through one’s property, there should be no human involvement in the creation, and the only things necessary to draw the boundaries are science, mathematics, probability, and computer software.
I think we should have a conditional amendment that:
1. Repeals the 17th.
2. Sets the requirements for the districting like I discussed above.
3. Requires the number of districts to be determined by a number that minimizes the variability of population per district between the states.
4. Since 2 EC votes are given to every state regardless of population, and number is currently based on the 2 senate allocations, and that would remain at 2, they need to set a weighting so that changes in the number of district appropriations can occur yet those changes would not impact the senate based allocations. So if they added 100 more district allocations (438 to 538 EC votes with DC) a 22.8% increase, they would need to have 2.46 votes for each state to maintain the same allocation. But if they just set a weighting at say 20% (or whatever) for those votes and 80% for the population based district votes, then it would ensure consistency.
5. Requires that the EC votes based on district appropriations are determined by the winner in the respective district (e.g., 1 vote per district). And the senate based EC votes are determined by the winner at state level. This would give voters consistent voting power at the district level, and further maximizes voting power by minimizing impact of statewide partisanship (like in California), and limiting it to only the state level EC votes.
6. Requires that if there is a tie, the National popular vote winner will be given a one vote tie breaker. This is unlikely to ever happen, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t be valid in that limited instance, and more valid than being decided by the current House of Representatives that may not reflect the current views of the electorate.
In other words, I think the founders system and methods for determining the house, senate, and President provides a great framework to give a district, a state, and the nation as a whole, and the people within each of these, a representation. And I don’t think the current problems, whether it’s disproportionate representation or unrepresentative representation, is a result of this system. That said, I think those problems exist and the issue is how we’ve applied the design (districting, all EC votes in state decided by winner takes all, direct elections of senators, etc.) the system, and won’t be fixed unless the applications are addressed, and irrespective of the system.
I think we should have a conditional amendment that:
1. Repeals the 17th.
2. Sets the requirements for the districting like I discussed above.
3. Requires the number of districts to be determined by a number that minimizes the variability of population per district between the states.
4. Since 2 EC votes are given to every state regardless of population, and number is currently based on the 2 senate allocations, and that would remain at 2, they need to set a weighting so that changes in the number of district appropriations can occur yet those changes would not impact the senate based allocations. So if they added 100 more district allocations (438 to 538 EC votes with DC) a 22.8% increase, they would need to have 2.46 votes for each state to maintain the same allocation. But if they just set a weighting at say 20% (or whatever) for those votes and 80% for the population based district votes, then it would ensure consistency.
5. Requires that the EC votes based on district appropriations are determined by the winner in the respective district (e.g., 1 vote per district). And the senate based EC votes are determined by the winner at state level. This would give voters consistent voting power at the district level, and further maximizes voting power by minimizing impact of statewide partisanship (like in California), and limiting it to only the state level EC votes.
6. Requires that if there is a tie, the National popular vote winner will be given a one vote tie breaker. This is unlikely to ever happen, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t be valid in that limited instance, and more valid than being decided by the current House of Representatives that may not reflect the current views of the electorate.
In other words, I think the founders system and methods for determining the house, senate, and President provides a great framework to give a district, a state, and the nation as a whole, and the people within each of these, a representation. And I don’t think the current problems, whether it’s disproportionate representation or unrepresentative representation, is a result of this system. That said, I think those problems exist and the issue is how we’ve applied the design (districting, all EC votes in state decided by winner takes all, direct elections of senators, etc.) the system, and won’t be fixed unless the applications are addressed, and irrespective of the system.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:40 pm to conservativewifeymom
Same thing needs to happen in PA.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:43 pm to conservativewifeymom
MD and Illinois are the two heavily gerrymandered dem states but there are several red states every bit as bad.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:45 pm to conservativewifeymom
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This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 3:59 pm
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