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Judge warns of mistrial in Chauvin case
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:58 am
The judge in the George Floyd case rejected a request by the prosecution on Thursday to enter newly discovered evidence in the murder trial of Derek Chauvin that would have contained information about Floyd’s carbon monoxide content during his arrest, warning of a mistrial if the results were mentioned by their rebuttal witness before the jury.
Prosecutor Jerry Blackwell told Judge Peter Cahill on Thursday morning that the state had just received blood gas evidence from Hennepin County medical examiner Andrew Baker, who performed Floyd's autopsy, that contained readings for the carbon monoxide content in his blood on the day it was arrested.
The evidence, Blackwell said, was discovered after a former chief medical examiner called by the defense as an expert witness speculated in court that Floyd could have been exposed to carbon monoxide poisoning when he was pressed to the ground under Chauvin’s restraint near a squad car last May.
Cahill ultimately determined that the evidence would not be allowed to be presented to the jury as the defense geared up to rest its case in the trial, which entered its fourteenth day on Thursday. Cahill warned of a mistrial if the state’s rebuttal witness, Martin Tobin, discussed the evidence when he was expected to take the stand later.
“The defense gave notice that this was going to be an issue and specifically talked about testing the sample,” Cahill said.
“Even if it's just because Dr. Baker called the state and said, ‘We, we can actually find this at eight o'clock this morning,’ when the defense expert is done testifying, has left the state,” he said, referring to Fowler.
“If he even hints that there are test results, the jury has not heard about, it's going to be a mistrial, pure and simple. This late disclosure is not the way we should be operating here,” the judge also said.
However, the judge said Tobin would be allowed to add information about carbon monoxide in regards to environmental factors when he takes the stand. LINK
Prosecutor Jerry Blackwell told Judge Peter Cahill on Thursday morning that the state had just received blood gas evidence from Hennepin County medical examiner Andrew Baker, who performed Floyd's autopsy, that contained readings for the carbon monoxide content in his blood on the day it was arrested.
The evidence, Blackwell said, was discovered after a former chief medical examiner called by the defense as an expert witness speculated in court that Floyd could have been exposed to carbon monoxide poisoning when he was pressed to the ground under Chauvin’s restraint near a squad car last May.
Cahill ultimately determined that the evidence would not be allowed to be presented to the jury as the defense geared up to rest its case in the trial, which entered its fourteenth day on Thursday. Cahill warned of a mistrial if the state’s rebuttal witness, Martin Tobin, discussed the evidence when he was expected to take the stand later.
“The defense gave notice that this was going to be an issue and specifically talked about testing the sample,” Cahill said.
“Even if it's just because Dr. Baker called the state and said, ‘We, we can actually find this at eight o'clock this morning,’ when the defense expert is done testifying, has left the state,” he said, referring to Fowler.
“If he even hints that there are test results, the jury has not heard about, it's going to be a mistrial, pure and simple. This late disclosure is not the way we should be operating here,” the judge also said.
However, the judge said Tobin would be allowed to add information about carbon monoxide in regards to environmental factors when he takes the stand. LINK
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:00 pm to Jbird
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The evidence, Blackwell said, was discovered after a former chief medical examiner called by the defense as an expert witness speculated in court that Floyd could have been exposed to carbon monoxide poisoning when he was pressed to the ground under Chauvin’s restraint near a squad car last May.
I don't see how that would help the defense
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:00 pm to Jbird
Nothing about this trial is anywhere even close to following Due Process. This is a damned travesty.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:03 pm to Jbird
I would think environmental factors such as ambient CO would help the defense?
Why would the prosecution want to bring that up?
Why would the prosecution want to bring that up?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:04 pm to Powerman
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I don't see how that would help the defense
Well... drugs and CO in his system kinda takes murder off of the table... to anyone with a reasonable mind...
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:04 pm to Jbird
Both sides rest....closing arguments Monday.
IMO, gonna be a tough road for Chauvin.....having said that it is not what I think, you think, the judge thinks,the attorneys think.....it is what the jury thinks!
IMO, gonna be a tough road for Chauvin.....having said that it is not what I think, you think, the judge thinks,the attorneys think.....it is what the jury thinks!
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:05 pm to Jbird
The judge ruled pretty fairly here on the carbon monoxide issue.
Did you hear the exchange? I was watching it live.
The judge said they couldn’t mention the newly uncovered lab test or it would be an immediate mistrial.
The woke doctor Tobin talked about a different blood test called an arterial blood gas. It just came off as desperate and trivial to even bring him back.
Did you hear the exchange? I was watching it live.
The judge said they couldn’t mention the newly uncovered lab test or it would be an immediate mistrial.
The woke doctor Tobin talked about a different blood test called an arterial blood gas. It just came off as desperate and trivial to even bring him back.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:14 pm to Jbird
If Chauvin is convicted, he’ll most likely win an appeal because the retarded judge refused a change of venue.
Who the frick could argue that he got a fair trial in Minneapolis.
Who the frick could argue that he got a fair trial in Minneapolis.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:16 pm to Jbird
He just invoked the 5th. Count on him being convicted of the 3rd degree manslaughter because they won't succeed in getting the 2nd. It's difficult to achieve in Case
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:24 pm to bhtigerfan
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If Chauvin is convicted, he’ll most likely win an appeal because the retarded judge refused a change of venue.
Who the frick could argue that he got an unbiased jury in Minneapolis.
Out of everything thus far, that one is the true head scratcher. Buildings were looted literally a few blocks away from where Chauvin is being tried and yet somehow the change of venue was off the table
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:25 pm to WhiskeyPlease
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3rd degree manslaughter
What is the criteria to meet for that one? I did a quick search but kept getting 3rd degree murder and no real clear definition of 3rd degree manslaughter.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:27 pm to geauxturbo
25 years versus 40 plus
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:28 pm to Jbird
So if CO killed Floyd wouldn't Chauvin be equally dead being as he was within a couple of feet of Floyd's head and most likely closer to the vehicle exhaust?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:29 pm to Jbird
Prosecutors don’t need to introduce the evidence during the trial, they’ll let the media do it for them this weekend
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:31 pm to oldskule
quote:It's what the jury thinks will happen to them if they don't convict.
.....it is what the jury thinks!
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:33 pm to Diamondawg
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So if CO killed Floyd wouldn't Chauvin be equally dead being as he was within a couple of feet of Floyd's head and most likely closer to the vehicle exhaust?
No, and it didn’t kill him per se but it certainly could have exacerbated things. And there’s a difference between being a few feet away and being right up on it.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:33 pm to Epaminondas
Only matters to Chauvin. The burning and looting is going to happen regardless of what happens. It's too ingrained in the Antifa/Dem playbook now.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:37 pm to Jbird
WTH? So now Chauvin is negligent in not shutting of the vehicle and the CO is what killed GF. Wasn't GF on the ground at the front of the vehicle and not at the rear where the exhaust is coming out? They would have to be in an enclosed area for more than "9 minutes" in order for CO to get to the lethal dose of CO.
Can they even prove it would be from the police vehicle and not GF's ratty POS car?
Will this become the new cry of police brutality? Suspect/Perp/ Subject cries about civil rights violation because the cop didn't shut off his engine. Subject gets off and cop is charged with attempted murder or aggravated assault.
Clown World!!!
Can they even prove it would be from the police vehicle and not GF's ratty POS car?
Will this become the new cry of police brutality? Suspect/Perp/ Subject cries about civil rights violation because the cop didn't shut off his engine. Subject gets off and cop is charged with attempted murder or aggravated assault.
Clown World!!!
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:41 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
quote:Can you explain to the class the mechanism by which CO binds to hemoglobin and how the per se vs exacerbates works?
No, and it didn’t kill him per se but it certainly could have exacerbated things.
quote:And warm air rises which could imply that Chauvin could have been more exposed to it than Floyd lying flat on the ground.
And there’s a difference between being a few feet away and being right up on it.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:42 pm to Diamondawg
quote:I don’t think the defense is claiming that he died from CO poisoning, but that it could be a contributing factor.
So if CO killed Floyd wouldn't Chauvin be equally dead being as he was within a couple of feet of Floyd's head and most likely closer to the vehicle exhaust?
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