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Judge rules low-income renters can access more affluent neighborhoods

Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by TheMidasTouch
Member since Oct 2017
440 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:23 am
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WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development to implement an Obama-era rule on Jan. 1 that would give low-income families greater access to housing in more affluent neighborhoods.

The 2016 rule was designed to break up areas of concentrated poverty in two dozen metro regions, from Atlanta and Charlotte to San Diego and Honolulu.

It would operate by taking into account the rental prices in specific neighborhoods -- instead of averaging across an entire metropolitan area -- making it easier for poor people to afford apartments in middle-class neighborhoods with better schools, lower crime rates and more job opportunities.

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Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:24 am to
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making it easier for poor people to afford apartments in middle-class neighborhoods with better schools


I'd just like to point out that this sentence is false.

It will NOT make it "easier for poor people to afford..........".

They still can't afford it. Getting me to pay their rent doesn't meant THEY can afford it.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64569 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:26 am to
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middle-class neighborhoods with better schools, lower crime rates and more job opportunities.



How long will these remain unaffected by the influx of new residents?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:27 am to
Love this quote

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Studies have shown that moving low-income families into wealthier neighborhoods results in better lives for their children, who are eventually more likely to attend college, earn more money, and reside in better neighborhoods as adults.


Oh really? "Studies" huh.

Don't suppose those "studies" noted any other effects of moving Section 8 people into an area in large numbers?

Nah.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134835 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:28 am to
So bring shite bags into neighborhoods where people have worked their asses off to get what they have and the reward is lower property values and shitty kids destroying nice schools. Awesome.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6934 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:28 am to
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making it easier for poor people to afford apartments in middle-class neighborhoods with better schools, lower crime rates and more job opportunities.
Why prop up the poor, uneducated, crime oriented and unemployed? All you end up doing is bringing down the property values, increase the crime rate and lower the educational systems in those areas.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:28 am to
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How long will these remain unaffected by the influx of new residents?


Exactly

There is absolutely NOTHING special about the school my kids go to. It's made of wood, brick, windows, wires etc etc. Just like every other school.

What makes the school good is the kids attending it.

Why do we pretend otherwise? It's just silly.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:29 am to


Obama appointee doing the work she was called to do.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9764 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:30 am to
Beef up Section 8 checks to move them into affluent neighborhoods. Obama logic.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34567 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:31 am to
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Don't suppose those "studies" noted any other effects of moving Section 8 people into an area in large numbers?


What do studies say about dropping half an ounce of shite into a gallon of clean water?
Posted by FinebaumsHair
Monroe, La
Member since Aug 2017
3001 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:32 am to
No doubt our Great Orange Overlord will shite this shite down with a quickness
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9221 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:33 am to
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What makes the school good is the kids attending it.


Not exactly....it's parental involvement. When parents dont show to meetings, dont take part in what their kids are doing, the school slacks and you get a shite education. This is why the district my kids go to is good. Heck, the one next to us has asians, indians and persians from all over moving here to put their kids in this high school. And because of that, the house values are ridiculous.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:34 am to
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making it easier for poor people to afford apartments in middle-class neighborhoods with better schools, lower crime rates and more job opportunities.


Gotcha.

So it will effectively import the crime and bad actors into good, established neighborhoods.

White Flight Volume II in the making.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:35 am to
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So it will effectively import the crime and bad actors into good, established neighborhoods.

The preferred nomenclature is known as" fundamentally changing America."
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:36 am to
The minute I found out I had a Section 8 property in my neighborhood I'd be looking for a new house and neighborhood.

Not everyone utilizing Section 8 are bad people. However a large number of them are. Not worth the risk (or property value loss).

Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34567 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:36 am to
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What makes the school good is the kids attending it.


Jackie Robinson said his children wouldn't learn one bit better just because they were sitting next to white kids.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32460 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:37 am to
If Obama made the rule, then Trump should go ahead and make another.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28118 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:38 am to
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I'd just like to point out that this sentence is false. It will NOT make it "easier for poor people to afford..........".

They still can't afford it. Getting me to pay their rent doesn't meant THEY can afford it.



quote:

I'd just like to point out that this sentence is false. It will NOT make it "easier for poor people to afford..........".

They still can't afford it. Getting me to pay their rent doesn't meant THEY can afford it.



quote:

I'd just like to point out that this sentence is false. It will NOT make it "easier for poor people to afford..........".

They still can't afford it. Getting me to pay their rent doesn't meant THEY can afford it.


Sorry just needed to vent by reposting that a few times.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:39 am to
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The 2016 rule was designed to break up areas of concentrated poverty in two dozen metro regions, from Atlanta and Charlotte to San Diego and Honolulu.
[quote]The 2016 rule was designed to break up areas of concentrated poverty in two dozen metro regions, from Atlanta and Charlotte to San Diego and Honolulu.


Hmm, maybe 'somebody' will be able to develop all that Joseph E Boone street property across from the Mercedes Dome in Atlanta after all?

I bet Emma & John won't be happy to hear this as they kept that voting block the way it is just to stay in office all these years, and blocked developers with a vengeance.

This might work out in ways they didn't envision.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:40 am to
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If Obama made the rule, then Trump should go ahead and make another.

Exactly. This is not a law. I'm not certain how a judge can order a federal agency to carry out a disregarded policy.

Of course Carson and HUD went the wrong route by delaying rather than axing the order.
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