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re: Judge blocks removal of Palestinian activist who was detained at Columbia University.

Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:37 am to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47230 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:37 am to
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SDVTiger




you also support the prison industrial complex and asset forfeiture also, don't you
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47230 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:41 am to
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Harry is uber libertarian


So the worst of the worst







what an idiot you are
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:51 am to
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ITS NOT SPEECH IT IS FOR HIS CONDUCT. WHY CANT YOU MORONS COMPREHEND THIS!


I can comprehend it. I would just like someone to post a link (any link) showing "conduct" that rises to the level of deportation.

I can't find one single thing showing open support for Hamas, or any criminal activity at all. No criminal charges have been filed against him, by either Columbia University or these Jewish students he's alleged to have abused. He never illegally occupied a building and only acted as a mediator by the people who did and University administration.

Other than being a general disturber of the peace and a fricking loudmouth. What else is there?

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31532 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:55 am to
Did Little Marco PNG him?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56227 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:55 am to
You’re wrong Hank.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92923 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:02 am to
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what an idiot you are


Says a libertarian
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2693 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:03 am to
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quote:A green card can be taken away at any moment by immigration for ANY reason!!


I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware that you like me, were the recipient of a green card. Or that INS specifically lets you know exactly this words when you go thru the process.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7612 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:22 am to
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Examples of Security Violations

Membership in Terrorist Organizations:

Being part of or assisting a terrorist group can lead to immediate revocation and deportation.


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56227 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:37 am to
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I consider the Constitution of the United States to be quite a worthy hill.

Nothing about the removal is unconstitutional, Hank. Stop lying.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56227 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:40 am to
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This fricking guy isn't going anywhere


Wanna bet?
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
787 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:44 am to
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Other than being a general disturber of the peace and a fricking loudmouth. What else is there?



Well, I'd suggest that the more hardcore terrorist supporters are the ones that know the line. If you're supportive of Hamas and just a really pissed off college student, you'll cross that line. You don't have as much to lose. The hardcore guys don't want too much attention, so they toe the line. They don't exactly advertise or hand out business cards.

Don't take this as I'm condoning arrest and removal of some loudmouth, if that's all it is. I'm just offering the other side of the argument. However, if the wrong loudmouth stumbles into the wrong neighborhood and gets smacked around a little bit for being anti-US, I might be OK with that.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56227 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:01 am to
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acted as a mediator by the people who did and University administration.


That’s all that is needed. He gone.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4599 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:07 am to
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What are the national security concerns implicated here?


Not having America become a Nation over run with Muslim terrorists who have ZERO recognition of LAW and want all Non-Muslims dead.

For examples, see Europe
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2697 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:12 am to
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Let’s say, just for the sake of discussion, that all of this is true. Please show us where Mahmood Khalil participated directly in any of these activities Because Trump is not trying to deport some random, hypothetical “protester.“ He is trying to deport that specific individual. In my vision of America, the federal government only brings its hammer down upon people for things that they actually did, not for some crowdsourced fantasy.


Go look at the actually statutes...

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8 USC 1182
(B) Terrorist activities

Any alien who is described in subparagraph (B) or (F) of section 1182(a)(3) of this title is deportable




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8 USC 1227
B) Terrorist activities (i) In general Any alien who- (I) has engaged in a terrorist activity; (II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv)); (III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity; (IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of- (aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity; (V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi); (VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; (VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization; (VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years, is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity


This has been this way since 2005 and has been used this way in the past. Note that no “material” support of terrorism needs to be alleged, and no formal crime must be committed. Mere speech suffices. No due process, only "reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry".

It is not very difficult to come up with "a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity" as defined as "(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization"
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 10:14 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79774 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:08 am to
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free speech is free speech



First - free speech is a bit of an illusion

Second - to the extent it exists, its full privilege should be reserved for citizens.
Posted by Arkaea79
Member since Sep 2022
956 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:09 am to
Amazing how many people don't know that it specifically asks on green card status "Do you support any anti-american extremists" (not exactly language) and they clearly lied here. Deport.
Posted by BuckeyeWarrior
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2025
622 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:11 am to
Impeach that f*ggot and make sure he never serves in a court again
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14023 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:49 am to
Round them up and have them camp out in the Judge's Lawn. If they leave the property ship them to Haiti.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Amazing how many people don't know that it specifically asks on green card status "Do you support any anti-american extremists" (not exactly language) and they clearly lied here. Deport.


How do you know he lied though? I can't find anything that says he supported Hamas. Now he supported Palestinians and is vocally anti-Isreal, but is that the same as supporting "anti-American extremism"?
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 12:15 pm
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2697 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:20 pm to
You do realize that Hamas is a designated terrorist organization and all of these protests would therefore fall into the criteria of reasonably suspect that they support a terrorist organization.

Once again, it doesn’t have to be material support.
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