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John Brennan reveals real reasons swamp rats are up in arms over revoked security clearanc

Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:28 am
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:28 am
NBC News


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Well for me, it probably does mean that, that I just can’t go into the agency and have conversations with people who may call me up and ask me for my thoughts and views, and that has happened in the last couple of months. But for others, former officials who are on that list, some of them serve on boards of directors that require security clearances because the companies involved deal with classified information, and this can have a very punitive, very financial hit against them, and so now if I was asked to be on a board that requires a security clearance, I couldn’t. But, again, giving up my security clearances in order to bring this issue to a head, to me, I’m willing to do that. I have, first time in 38 years I’ve not had a security clearance. I love and respect and admire my former colleagues at the CIA and other places, and I will fight to keep their profession pure, objective and not being politicized and members of Congress need to step up. This is the time that your country is going to rely on you, not to do what is best for your party, but what is best for the country.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 12:37 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:31 am to
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Well for me, it probably does mean that, that I just can’t go into the agency and have conversations with people who may call me up and ask me for my thoughts and views, and that has happened in the last couple of months.


So 1) he can’t obtain classified info because he just prances around the old office and 2) he can’t make money off of it.

Sounds like a solid case for him to not have it any more.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31618 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:33 am to
Government contractors with security clearance people on their boards. Do the boards need to know classified info? Look at say a Boeing. If they get a project to build something that is a classified project, they need to have people on the inside with security clearances. Thus a random engineer has to have one to work on some thing.

And maybe therefore business decisions by the board are rightly to be influenced by those with security clearances?

But that doesn’t mean the board members need to be former gov officials. But think about how great it would be to get on your board somebody who can walk into an agency like what’s up fellas? Then they go back to the board and deliver the goods.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 12:36 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:34 am to
I'm sure those people are living paycheck to paycheck.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:34 am to
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So 1) he can’t obtain classified info because he just prances around the old office and 2) he can’t make money off of it. Sounds like a solid case for him to not have it any more.



That's correct!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:35 am to
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I just can’t go into the agency and have conversations with people who may call me up and ask me for my thoughts and views, and that has happened in the last couple of months


This needs follow up questions. To whom has he been seeking with?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:35 am to
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I'm sure those people are living paycheck to paycheck.


No, but they are making millions on info they shouldn't have access to, and shouldn't be sharing.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 12:55 am
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:36 am to
Yep
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:36 am to
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so now if I was asked to be on a board that requires a security clearance, I couldn’t.

Boo fricking hoo.

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I will fight to keep their profession pure, objective and not being politicized

You are a psychopath.

How many times has this evil pos shredded the Constitution and laws of this country?

How many murders has he ordered?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:37 am to
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To whom has he been seeking with?


Chuck Todd on Meet the Press
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:42 am to
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I will fight to keep their profession pure, objective and not being politicized

quote:

former officials who are on that list, some of them serve on boards of directors that require security clearances because the companies involved deal with classified information, and this can have a very punitive, very financial hit against them, 


Want to keep the profession pure and objective and non political? Everyone who retires, all former officials, have all clearances revoked when they leave the service of an intellegnce agency and it is a crime to use your clearance or intellegnce knowledge in the private sector.

I am sure he would support that.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:43 am to
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So 1) he can’t obtain classified info because he just prances around the old office and 2) he can’t make money off of it.

Sounds like a solid case for him to not have it any more.



Sounds like you don't really understand the value of the clearance. It also means that no one can get his advice on classified information after 25 years of service. You were just up in arms about something you don't understand and never have. But yeah I'm the partisan hack
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
45099 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:49 am to
Well...yeah.

John Brennan is not getting his security clearance. His conduit to make $ off secure info and use it for political purposes is closed.

You’re just gonna have to get over it.

Have a good cry in your pillow tonight, get it out, and put it behind you.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:49 am to
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Sounds like you don't really understand the value of the clearance. It also means that no one can get his advice on classified information after 25 years of service. You were just up in arms about something you don't understand and never have. But yeah I'm the partisan hack



These companies can hire someone without a clearance and have him vetted and cleared to get a security clearance. But that takes money and time and they'd prefer for the goverment to spend the cash clearing someone and then, they hire him once he leaves office.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:50 am to
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Sounds like you don't really understand the value of the clearance. It also means that no one can get his advice on classified information after 25 years of service.
If thebpowers that be really need his advice, a lack of clearance means absolutely nothing.


Oh and no one is going to Brennan for advice. He’s a glorified manager and has been for at least a decade. There are hundreds more people in the agency or the NSA or DOD that have much more detailed and nuanced understandings of virtually every subject. Brennan is nothing more than a politician. Let’s not pretend he’s actually important to...anything
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 12:53 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:02 am to
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Oh and no one is going to Brennan for advice. He’s a glorified manager and has been for at least a decade. There are hundreds more people in the agency or the NSA or DOD that have much more detailed and nuanced understandings of virtually every subject. Brennan is nothing more than a politician. Let’s not pretend he’s actually important to...anything


I feel like there is a 100% chance that you were basing this information off of literally nothing.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:06 am to
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I feel like there is a 100% chance that you were basing this information off of literally nothing.

Well luckily for you your “feelings” on the matter mean literally nothing.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:07 am to
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I love and respect and admire my former colleagues at the CIA and other places, and I will fight to keep their profession pure, objective and not being politicized and members of Congress need to step up.


Maybe the ex director of the CIA shouldn't have gotten involved in politics?

This guy is a total piece of shite
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:08 am to
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Well luckily for you your “feelings” on the matter mean literally nothing.


But I'm right, and you know you pulled that put of your based arse.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:10 am to
No. You’re wrong. He was an adminstrator for his last several years in government. And like I said before, if his “expertise” is absolutely needed then a lack of a clearance means absolutely nothing.
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