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J.D. Greear - New President of Southern Baptist Convention
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:20 am
Heard an interview with Rev. Greear on the radio this morning. It was very surprising to me how moderate this guy sounded. He was elected pretty overwhelmingly at the latest SBC national meeting.
Interview linked here.
NPR interview with Greear
For you Southern Baptists, does this mark some sort of shift in the denomination politically, or did the electorate get a lib in lamb's clothing?
Interview linked here.
NPR interview with Greear
For you Southern Baptists, does this mark some sort of shift in the denomination politically, or did the electorate get a lib in lamb's clothing?
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:42 am to GAAtty70
tGOAT
He will lead Southern Baptists back to Canaan. All their problems will be solved as they all anxiously await his decrees.
For the other 99.99% of Southern Baptists who have no idea who he is, it remains to be seen what will happen to them.
He will lead Southern Baptists back to Canaan. All their problems will be solved as they all anxiously await his decrees.
For the other 99.99% of Southern Baptists who have no idea who he is, it remains to be seen what will happen to them.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 8:44 am
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:47 am to GAAtty70
Greear is not what I would consider a liberal. Though he maybe more moderate than me. His election is more of a generational shift. The younger southern Baptist are trying to distance themselves from politics as much as possible.
There was a lot of discussion concerning the Vice President coming to speak. Many did not want him to come, not because they disagree with him, but that it sends a signal that we are aligned with the Republican Party.
There was way more internal politics at play this year than external concerning J D Greear’s election.
There was a lot of discussion concerning the Vice President coming to speak. Many did not want him to come, not because they disagree with him, but that it sends a signal that we are aligned with the Republican Party.
There was way more internal politics at play this year than external concerning J D Greear’s election.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:48 am to GAAtty70
Southern Baptists and the Masons
I remember reading this a while back and also finding other sources that had the same info...
I believe the southern Baptist church has been infiltrated much the same as the Catholic Church, especially at the highest levels.
I remember reading this a while back and also finding other sources that had the same info...
I believe the southern Baptist church has been infiltrated much the same as the Catholic Church, especially at the highest levels.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:54 am to jacob4bama
I say, never trust a man that can’t even spell his own last name right
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:33 am to theunknownknight
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I say, never trust a man that can’t even spell his own last name right
That would still put the S. Baptists ahead of a lot other religions. Hyphen is not one of the 26 letters of the alphabet so the LBTQxyzabc with their smith-jones are ruled out.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:42 am to tiger11
quote:it has...like catholics, they are universalists and very few universalists that i have known know nothing about the bible...the SBC originated in 1865 and split from the real baptists over the slavery issue...they supported it....its history, look it up...they share several things with the romanists that are of a pagan origin
I remember reading this a while back and also finding other sources that had the same info...
I believe the southern Baptist church has been infiltrated much the same as the Catholic Church, especially at the highest levels.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 9:43 am
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:45 am to tiger11
You can't be a Catholic and a Mason. fricking protestants man.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:56 am to Collegedropout
quote:The RPCNA (Presbyterian) has it listed in their documents that you can't be a member of a secret organization like the Masons.
You can't be a Catholic and a Mason. fricking protestants man
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:59 am to burdhead
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it has...like catholics, they are universalists and very few universalists that i have known know less than nothing about the bible...the SBC originated in 1865 and split from the real baptists over the slavery issue...they supported it....its history, look it up...they share several things with the romanists that are of a pagan origin
The SBC is not universalists and have taken a strong stance against it. There are many mainline denominations that are much more universalist.
It is true that it’s orgins were over slavery and whether missionaries who own slaves should be supported.
As far as your other claims I would be interested in specific examples.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:23 am to jacob4bama
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The younger southern Baptist are trying to distance themselves from politics as much as possible.
That is the opposite of what we should be doing. Sitting on the sidelines got us Clinton and Obama.
I've said this many, many times to the "Libertarians" and moderate Republicans on this board. If you alienate the Christian Right, you will never win another national election. Despite the shrinking numbers it is still the largest and most consistent voting block on the right.
I guess the next best thing is to infiltrate them with a "laissez faire" attitude when it comes to the world around them, so I don't consider this guy's "moderate" attitude to be a positive.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:25 am to jacob4bama
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they are universalists
Absolute hogwash. SBC is one of the few major denominations that still say Jesus is the only path to salvation.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:45 am to jacob4bama
quote:
Greear is not what I would consider a liberal. Though he maybe more moderate than me. His election is more of a generational shift. The younger southern Baptist are trying to distance themselves from politics as much as possible.
There was a lot of discussion concerning the Vice President coming to speak. Many did not want him to come, not because they disagree with him, but that it sends a signal that we are aligned with the Republican Party.
There was way more internal politics at play this year than external concerning J D Greear’s election.
This, the imb is (currently) run by a fairly moderate person and is actually praised by a majority of the SBC congregations. (I would say Platt is actually a good bit farther to the left than the new SBC president)
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:49 am to Collegedropout
you are ignorant if you are talking about a baptist being a protestant...baptist were NEVER ! a part of the roman paganism....baptist doctrine and a few others, came down through the church at jerusalem, not the the apostate church at rome...check your history and learn it
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:50 am to NikolaiJakov
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:51 am to GAAtty70
Trevin Wax: "It’s helpful to lay these misconceptions on the table and to talk honestly about our differences. You make the case that Muslims do worship the same God as Christians, although with obvious errors in understanding. Can you elaborate on how you came to this conclusion and how you would maintain major distinctions between Muslim and Christian understandings of God?"
J.D. Greear: "This is a tough question that has a considerable amount of complexity to it. But at the end of the day, I think the question of whether or not you use the Arabic name for God – Allah – is more of a practical question than a theological one."
J.D. Greear: "This is a tough question that has a considerable amount of complexity to it. But at the end of the day, I think the question of whether or not you use the Arabic name for God – Allah – is more of a practical question than a theological one."
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:52 am to GAAtty70
He's a Gnostic. Very dangerous for the SBC, but will be well liked by the outsiders.
But most run of the mill Southern Baptists have no idea what is happening to their denomination.
But most run of the mill Southern Baptists have no idea what is happening to their denomination.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:08 am to FooManChoo
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Trevin Wax: "It’s helpful to lay these misconceptions on the table and to talk honestly about our differences. You make the case that Muslims do worship the same God as Christians, although with obvious errors in understanding. Can you elaborate on how you came to this conclusion and how you would maintain major distinctions between Muslim and Christian understandings of God?" J.D. Greear: "This is a tough question that has a considerable amount of complexity to it. But at the end of the day, I think the question of whether or not you use the Arabic name for God – Allah – is more
Is he saying that Muslims will be saved? Or that Muslims are a Christian heresy? I. E. Muslims claim the same God, but do not actually know Him.
By the way his answer is not very helpful as he does not elaborate to what he means.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:10 am to Collegedropout
The Masons do not mind if you are Catholic.
That posted article was written by someone with a wild imagination.
The SBC has over time followed the social wind.
The biggest difference between Baptist and Catholics is that the Baptist believe individuals can interrupt the scriptures for the most part on their own. They believe they can have a direct relationship with God and thus they do not pray to Saints for intervention or to the Virgin Mary. They do not believe preachers have standing with God that laymen do not also have---ie the prayers of the Priest do not make the bread and water into the body and blood. They have no formal Church hierarchy.
The president of the SBC has no authority in the local churches nor do they have any special standing.
That posted article was written by someone with a wild imagination.
The SBC has over time followed the social wind.
The biggest difference between Baptist and Catholics is that the Baptist believe individuals can interrupt the scriptures for the most part on their own. They believe they can have a direct relationship with God and thus they do not pray to Saints for intervention or to the Virgin Mary. They do not believe preachers have standing with God that laymen do not also have---ie the prayers of the Priest do not make the bread and water into the body and blood. They have no formal Church hierarchy.
The president of the SBC has no authority in the local churches nor do they have any special standing.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:14 am to Collegedropout
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You can't be a Catholic and a Mason. fricking protestants man.
The Catholic Church was infiltrated long ago...not necessarily by the Masons.
Communism and the Satanic
AA-1025, Memoirs of the Communist's (Priest) Infiltration Into the Church book, is a short book and a really good read. Cheap on amazon. I’d recommend it.
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