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JBE's Medicaid Expansion has Louisianans dropping their private plans for "free" insurance
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:11 pm
WSJ
This is what two RINOs going scorched fricking Earth sky screaming against a legit conservative and helping liberal democrat JBE win back in 2015 has brought you.
We have a chance to correct that stupid mistake this fall, let's take advantage of that opportunity.
Vote JBE out.
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If any state can serve as the poster child for the problems associated with ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion, it’s Louisiana, which joined the expansion in 2016, after Democrat John Bel Edwards became governor. An audit released last year exposed ineligible Medicaid beneficiaries, including at least 1,672 people who made more than $100,000. But Louisiana’s Medicaid expansion has revealed another waste of taxpayer funds, both in the Pelican State and nationwide: the money spent providing coverage to people who already had health insurance.
Via a public-records request, the Pelican Institute obtained data demonstrating that thousands of Louisiana residents dropped their private coverage to enroll in Medicaid under the expansion. A spreadsheet compiled by the Louisiana Department of Health put the count between 3,000 and 5,000 people a month, and that doesn’t count those who enrolled in Medicaid first, then dropped private coverage.
When asked about the spreadsheet, Medicaid officials stated in an email that the Health Department “stopped producing” the data in late 2017 when it discovered its vendor’s information “was limited to [third-party liability] during the period of Medicaid enrollment.” Because the vendor couldn’t track beneficiaries before or after their Medicaid enrollment, the spreadsheet arguably underestimated the number of people dropping private coverage to enroll in Medicaid.
The Health Department’s internal spreadsheet information comports with other coverage estimates. A survey by Louisiana State University researchers found that, from 2015-17, enrollment in private insurance fell precipitously among low-income Louisiana residents eligible for Medicaid under the expansion. The number of people covered by private health insurance declined by tens of thousands, even as Medicaid enrollment skyrocketed by more than 141,000.
That masses of Louisiana residents canceled their private coverage to enroll in “free” Medicaid should surprise no one. In 2007 Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist Jonathan Gruber, who later became an architect of ObamaCare, concluded that some coverage expansions would see rates of “crowd-out”—government programs squeezing out private insurance—approaching 60%. Eight years later, Louisiana’s Legislative Fiscal Office estimated that crowd-out would cost taxpayers between $900 million and $1.3 billion over five years. Because enrollment in Medicaid expansion vastly exceeded initial projections, the true cost may rise far higher.
Federal budget analysts have yet to quantify the effect of crowd-out on Medicaid expansion—but they should, because estimates suggest that Washington is spending billions annually funding Medicaid for people with prior health coverage. Montana officials recently released a study boasting of 8,700 workers who would have employer-sponsored coverage but for Medicaid expansion, claiming that expansion provided “cost savings to businesses” of up to $114 million. Only in a bureaucrat’s mind would more government spending, taxes and government dependency represent “cost savings.”
In response to the Louisiana audit, the state recently purged more than 30,000 ineligible people from the rolls. Health Secretary Rebekah Gee claimed the action demonstrated how she and Gov. Edwards “want to make sure that only those that need Medicaid have Medicaid.” But good stewards of taxpayer dollars, upon receiving preliminary reports of people dropping coverage to enroll in Medicaid, would have demanded better data and fashioned policy solutions to address the problem. The Louisiana Department of Health did neither and stopped compiling the data.
Generations of Louisiana politicians, since Gov. Huey Long in the 1930s, have claimed that fostering an economy rooted in government dependence will lead to prosperity. But the more than 67,000 residents who have left the state in the past three years alone see a stagnant economy and a slowly sinking state. Louisiana can do better, and other states thinking about Medicaid expansion should think again.
This is what two RINOs going scorched fricking Earth sky screaming against a legit conservative and helping liberal democrat JBE win back in 2015 has brought you.
We have a chance to correct that stupid mistake this fall, let's take advantage of that opportunity.
Vote JBE out.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:14 pm to Sentrius
Don’t forget that Rep. Tony Bacala from Ascension brought a bill this Session that would allow for someone’s tax returns to be analyzed before getting enrolled in certain government assistance. Of course the bill was killed.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:20 pm to toosleaux
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Don’t forget that Rep. Tony Bacala from Ascension brought a bill this Session that would allow for someone’s tax returns to be analyzed before getting enrolled in certain government assistance. Of course the bill was killed.
They will never learn. Louisiana will continue to lose valuable people to other states, and retain the parasites.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:20 pm to Sentrius
Louisiana is so fricked. I’ve got 11 more years in this shithole, and I’m out. On to TX and start a new career.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:40 pm to CoachChappy
Come on baw, move to Houston. Plenty of LSU fans here.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:48 pm to Sentrius
Why pay for insurance when everyone else will pay for it for me via Medicaid... definitely not sustainable
Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:08 pm to jnethe1
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Come on baw, move to Houston. Plenty of LSU fans here.
I didn't start this thread for texas transplants like you to tell people to give up and move away.
I started this thread to point out JBE's lies and issue a declaration of what Louisiana must do this fall.
This thread is not for you.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:22 pm to jnethe1
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move to Houston
I don’t know about that. I like it out there in the hill country.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:23 pm to CoachChappy
Yeah, just not as much opportunities. But it’s definitely beautiful.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:24 pm to Sentrius
Keep fighting man, I’m sure that one day it’ll be solved.... lmao!
Posted on 6/16/19 at 4:35 pm to NIH
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I’m sure that one day it’ll be solved.... lmao!
Not with people like you.
Again, This thread is not for you.
There's the exit.
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Just need more Republicans
Republicans that are actually conservative.
Not corrupt RINOs like Alario, Angelle, Dardenne, Martiny, Normand and so on.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 5:53 pm to Sentrius
Leftists love this news. The only part of it that’s bad news to the left, is that businesses are benefiting, and they’ll solve that given a chance.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:45 pm to Sentrius
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Republicans that are actually conservative.
+1
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:57 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Count me in the just about fed up crew. Been contemplating about moving my family and tax base to Texas for a few years now. Just don’t see continuing to pay 10-15K in state taxes for what?
My kids are grown (Private school anyway) so really nothing keeping me here, but my like for the area.
My kids are grown (Private school anyway) so really nothing keeping me here, but my like for the area.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:01 pm to Sentrius
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We have a chance to correct that stupid mistake this fall, let's take advantage of that opportunity.
I wish either Abraham or Rispone would start to stand out. The earlier one of them takes the lead and they stop going against each other the better. I'm leaning Abraham at the moment.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:28 pm to Kingpenm3
Neither Abraham nor Rispone has any intention of rolling back the Medicaid expansion, at least neither have said so publicly. Both have told private audiences (I was there) as much.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:44 pm to Sentrius
Of course this would happen. Medicaid wasn’t available to the working poor before so they didn’t enroll. They had to buy private insurance. That doesn’t mean they were uninsured. This is not a criticism of expansion.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:49 pm to toosleaux
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Don’t forget that Rep. Tony Bacala from Ascension brought a bill this Session that would allow for someone’s tax returns to be analyzed before getting enrolled in certain government assistance. Of course the bill was killed.
I don’t know about that bill, but the new Medicaid computer system which went online just this year has access to state income and tax information for eligibility verification. They had to scrap the Jindal era system which had no eligibility capability. The new system is causing significant adjustment in the rolls right now.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 10:08 pm to Sentrius
I'm curious to know whose these people are - like what is their profile, how much money are they making, what kind of jobs, etc. How many were dropped below 30 hours a week before ACA enactment? How many of them, due to balooning private insurance cost, now have unaffordable private policies?
How many people dropped individual policies vs company coverage?
How are these people using their medicaid polices vs how they used their private policies?
How many people dropped individual policies vs company coverage?
How are these people using their medicaid polices vs how they used their private policies?
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