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Jan 6 thread on DU
Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:58 pm
wow. these folks live in an alternate reality.
"1. Them or Me
A substantial portion of the American population feels an anger and despair that has made them susceptible to Trump’s swagger and lies.
It is too simplistic to attribute this solely to racism or xenophobia. America has harbored white supremacist and anti-immigrant sentiments since its founding. The despair Trump has channeled is more closely connected to a profound loss of identity, dignity and purpose, especially among Americans who have been left behind – without college degrees, without good jobs, in places that have been economically abandoned and disdained by much of the rest of the country.
It's called being black in America.
All of a sudden a black man became President, and Trump rose because he denigrated the man who highlighted the abject failures that the average Trump Voter is.
They were absolutely fine in the 50's, 60's, 70's - they loved them some racist Ray Gun. They happily went along with the Contract on America (black American Women - even Pat Buchanan admitted it)
As a matter of fact - Trump's 'welfare reform' doesn't require 'workfare' for rural white Americans.
I have tremendous respect for Robert Reich - but I'm not giving up an inch for those people. After they lift my SALT cap, implement voting rights, and address reparations for Jim Crow -
They can address how those 60% of Republicans he mentioned failed up. I'd like to know WHY they just expected everything to be handed to them? Because when you address that - you see at its root . . .
It IS white supremacy - not racism or xenophobia.
PS - my husband - a new American as of November 16 - didn't take their job. The blacksmith unesco certified restoration specialist and juried artist - started several businesses when he came here and sold them. White Male from Italy.
They could have TRIED. They didn't. They just 'expected'. If Giovanni could be successful - so could they. But he never 'expected' anything.
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10. Agreed. The majority of the insurrectionists......
weren't poor people from the "hollers" of east Kentucky. Many were and some still are business owners of various sorts or skilled in some discipline or another. The overriding connection nearly every one of them share is they're white. It wasn't a collection of the "left behinds." It was a collection of "our people don't run everything anymore." And they do not want to share. No they do not. It's a perceived loss of economic and political power by those who stupidly believe that life is all a zero sum game. They're people who chaff at the idea that it's not hunky dory to be an a-hole to women and minorities like their parents or grandparents got away with. They're people who think the world owes them ascendancy simply due to the color of their skin.
So no, saying it's driven by race, gender and national origin issues isn't being simplistic at all. It's the truth even Robert Reich apparently doesn't want to face.
if you dare...
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"1. Them or Me
A substantial portion of the American population feels an anger and despair that has made them susceptible to Trump’s swagger and lies.
It is too simplistic to attribute this solely to racism or xenophobia. America has harbored white supremacist and anti-immigrant sentiments since its founding. The despair Trump has channeled is more closely connected to a profound loss of identity, dignity and purpose, especially among Americans who have been left behind – without college degrees, without good jobs, in places that have been economically abandoned and disdained by much of the rest of the country.
It's called being black in America.
All of a sudden a black man became President, and Trump rose because he denigrated the man who highlighted the abject failures that the average Trump Voter is.
They were absolutely fine in the 50's, 60's, 70's - they loved them some racist Ray Gun. They happily went along with the Contract on America (black American Women - even Pat Buchanan admitted it)
As a matter of fact - Trump's 'welfare reform' doesn't require 'workfare' for rural white Americans.
I have tremendous respect for Robert Reich - but I'm not giving up an inch for those people. After they lift my SALT cap, implement voting rights, and address reparations for Jim Crow -
They can address how those 60% of Republicans he mentioned failed up. I'd like to know WHY they just expected everything to be handed to them? Because when you address that - you see at its root . . .
It IS white supremacy - not racism or xenophobia.
PS - my husband - a new American as of November 16 - didn't take their job. The blacksmith unesco certified restoration specialist and juried artist - started several businesses when he came here and sold them. White Male from Italy.
They could have TRIED. They didn't. They just 'expected'. If Giovanni could be successful - so could they. But he never 'expected' anything.
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10. Agreed. The majority of the insurrectionists......
weren't poor people from the "hollers" of east Kentucky. Many were and some still are business owners of various sorts or skilled in some discipline or another. The overriding connection nearly every one of them share is they're white. It wasn't a collection of the "left behinds." It was a collection of "our people don't run everything anymore." And they do not want to share. No they do not. It's a perceived loss of economic and political power by those who stupidly believe that life is all a zero sum game. They're people who chaff at the idea that it's not hunky dory to be an a-hole to women and minorities like their parents or grandparents got away with. They're people who think the world owes them ascendancy simply due to the color of their skin.
So no, saying it's driven by race, gender and national origin issues isn't being simplistic at all. It's the truth even Robert Reich apparently doesn't want to face.
if you dare...
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:01 pm to djmed
Lol, these people are nutts. They would find faults if every President were blacks, like the Supremist wouldn’t let him lead, etc.# infinity…..
Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:01 pm to djmed
They weren’t keen on a stolen election after a year of dems using the pandemic to get control of the world
DU is DUmb
DU is DUmb
Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:02 pm to djmed
I don’t see how anyone can read that website without immediately gauging out their eyes. It’s the ugliest looking message board I’ve ever seen.
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:16 pm to djmed
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America has harbored white supremacist and anti-immigrant sentiments since its founding.
Every person here besides Feather Indians was or descended from fricking immigrants of some sort.....
This bullshite is so tiring.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:37 pm to djmed
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America has harbored white supremacist and anti-immigrant sentiments since its founding.
Identifying immigration as a way that wealthy corporations drive down wages by literally importing cheap labor is tied to "white supremacist" so that no one can argue the merits of why our political leaders don't ever address something that actively hurts the vast majority of their constituents. Most people are not anti-immigrant, they are pro-worker. There's a f'ing difference and "Dems" are supposed to be a workers party.
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The despair Trump has channeled is more closely connected to a profound loss of identity, dignity and purpose, especially among Americans who have been left behind – without college degrees, without good jobs, in places that have been economically abandoned and disdained by much of the rest of the country.
Half right, no one cares about identity, they want to be able to afford a good life. That means pay surpassing inflation, not just "keeping up with it", which it hasn't.
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If Giovanni could be successful - so could they.
Completely unacceptable from anyone. Just because X was successful in no way means that Y could be... unless their circumstance were exactly the same to begin with. This is a literal argument that racists make for why black people shouldn't complain about their lot in life, and it WAS rejected by the left.
Also, Giovanni had the wealth to move to the U.S. and had the wealth to get the certification that made him successful here. He is not "typical" in any sense of the word. This b*tch is so obviously a silver spoon princess that she can't see the forest for the trees.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:38 pm to djmed
I dared and what a supprise to see they are trashing queen Okrah...
Pilling on. Why? Because of Dr. Oz?
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Oprah Winfrey is as much a fraud as the ones she brought into the spotlight.
We're talking Joel Osteen, James Frey, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, Suze Orman, etc. and the rest of her "magical thinking" bullshite.
Personally, I was never a fan. Much like Trump, I've always felt that she was foisted upon us.
Afternoon talk shows were great until she hit the scene. I adored Phil Donahue. His show was always intelligent and thought provoking. Then comes Oprah with her fluff crap and the genre went down hill from there.
BFD, she gives away cars. Does she cover the costs for the insurance?
Her response to Dr. Oz's Senate run is "Let Pennsylvania decide".
F*** her and the horse she rode in on.
Pilling on. Why? Because of Dr. Oz?
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:42 pm to LookSquirrel
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Pilling on. Why? Because of Dr. Oz?
Because Oprah is a fraud that was hoisted upon the public. She was great buds with Harvey Weinstein. Everyone sees through her b.s. now.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 4:19 pm to djmed
The DU asylum was long ago taken over by the inmates.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 4:33 pm to Auburn1968
Reminder: DU banned Rex for not being insane enough.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 4:41 pm to Beauw
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Every person here besides Feather Indians
they immigrated here too, just a lot longer ago.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 4:53 pm to td01241
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I don’t see how anyone can read that website without immediately gauging out their eyes.
I clicked on a link to it from here once, or it was mentioned and I checked it out, and the first thing I saw was this crazy rant about reparations and I never went back. The stupidity here makes me laugh, but the hardcore Democrats are legit crazy and kind of scary.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 5:00 pm to djmed
Are the whites that put Obama in office for two terms still racists? I loose track of who is a white supremacist these days.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:38 pm to McChowder
These folks do nothing but generalize, stereotype, and put everyone into a separate box of identity. They are what they claim to hate.
I hate them all. Green, red, blue, white, gray, yellow, black, I don't care. Hate all of them. No discrimination here.
I hate them all. Green, red, blue, white, gray, yellow, black, I don't care. Hate all of them. No discrimination here.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:39 pm to djmed
They are right about one thing: Trump does have swagger.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:41 pm to djmed
I swear it’s like these people keep a little book with them outlining prog positions at all times to be sure they hit every talking point.
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:49 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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I swear it’s like these people keep a little book with them outlining prog positions at all times to be sure they hit every talking point.
They just google "progressive talking points" or more specific things like "Trump's top lies" or "top reasons why Trump's a racist" etc. when they need to come up with something. Very simple. They'd have nothing if there weren't set out for them like kindergartners like that.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:53 pm to djmed
They’re all eaten up with white guilt and hate themselves.
I hear that the only way to cure white guilt is by killing yourself.
I hear that the only way to cure white guilt is by killing yourself.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:55 pm to djmed
Lost me at DU
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:56 pm to djmed
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DU
Hive of deluded, low-IQ, poorly educated loons.
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