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It's time for a national election voting law
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:33 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:33 am
Before some of you say bullshite let's remember we have only one election for a national office - the presidency. Deadlines, mail-ins, absentees - those kinds of things need to be cleaned up and more uniform. I'm not talking about how electoral votes are determined, just the process of individual voting itself. Instead of having 50 different states deciding how their state enacts and enforces laws for an election for a national office things would be simpler and fairer, imo, if all states had to abide by the same law to elect a president. Considering all the murky water several states are currently wading through in defining what the law is or is not in their state why wouldn't we want a simpler process. After all, if we have a national court, the SC, deciding cases on what is constitutional regarding a national election then let's just skip all the bullshite and have a national law to clear up the muddy water.
One more federal "regulation" isn't going to kill us. In turn it would actually eliminate many state "regulations".
One more federal "regulation" isn't going to kill us. In turn it would actually eliminate many state "regulations".
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:38 am to Homesick Tiger
Doesn't the Constitution specifically state that presidential elections are to always be held the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November? Seems like we already have a national voting law but as usual Democrats like to move the goal posts.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:38 am to Homesick Tiger
Fully Agree 
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:39 am to Homesick Tiger
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Before some of you say BULL shite let's remember we have only one election for a national office - the presidency.
You already don’t understand how it works.
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I'm not talking about how electoral votes are determined, just the process of individual voting itself.
???
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Instead of having 50 different states deciding how their state enacts and enforces laws for an election for a national office things would be simpler and fairer, imo, if all states had to abide by the same law to elect a president.
Those states are the entities actually participating in the election of the President. Individuals do not vote for POTUS. You vote for a particular party’s electors for your state, and the electors with the most votes are certified by your state government to cast their EV’s according to the laws of the state. That is why the state gets to set up its election however it wants.
States can have their electors vote however they want. There is nothing in the Constitution requiring a state to give their EV’s to the candidate winning the popular vote in their state.
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One more federal "regulation" isn't going to kill us. In turn it would actually eliminate many state "regulations".
Oof
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 6:48 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:40 am to Homesick Tiger
Presidential election protocols should be uniform in order for the votes to count. Uniform and done in person.....with ID presented.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:42 am to samson73103
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Doesn't the Constitution specifically state that presidential elections are to always be held the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November?
No. The date of the election is set by Congress. Inauguration Day is set by the 20th amendment, but Election Day is not.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:43 am to Animal
We have a much bigger problem with who can vote.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:44 am to Homesick Tiger
It's time to go developing nation mode.
National holiday on voting day, purple ink on your finger. I'm suspect of most everything else.
National holiday on voting day, purple ink on your finger. I'm suspect of most everything else.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:47 am to Indefatigable
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You already don’t understand how it works.
and you don't understand the point I'm trying to make.
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You vote for a particular party’s electors in your state.
Well that's false. Not all states have a binding law saying an elector has to vote according to the voter's wishes.
Anyway, I guess you missed this part of my post -
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Deadlines, mail-ins, absentees - those kinds of things need to be cleaned up and more uniform. I'm not talking about how electoral votes are determined.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 6:51 am to Homesick Tiger
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Well that's false. Not all states have a binding law saying an elector has to vote according to the voter's wishes.
Not false. That does not change the fact that you are voting for electors.
The state can force its electors to honor the popular vote of the state or not. Doesn’t change what you are voting for in the booth—which is a set of electors
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Deadlines, mail-ins, absentees - those kinds of things need to be cleaned up and more uniform. I'm not talking about how electoral votes are determined.
No I didn’t miss that. It’s just nonsensical because all of those things are determined at the state level, because the states are conducting their own separate elections. States don’t even have to have mail in ballots, etc.
There’s no federal law because it’s not a federal election and none of those laws you propose would be constitutional. There is no federal election in this country.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 6:57 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:05 am to Indefatigable
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There is no federal election in this country.
Sure is. Ever heard of the Federal Election Commission?
Here you go-
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Elections in the United States are held for government officials at the federal, state, and local levels. At the federal level, the nation's head of state, the president, is elected indirectly by the people of each state, through an Electoral College.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:19 am to Homesick Tiger
I couldn't agree with you more. I'm not sure why our founding fathers allowed each state to do "their own thing" but as a result, every election year our country experiences election woes (esp. thinking of the hanging chads). Mandatory voter I.D. laws SHOULD BE MANDATORY. No mail-in ballots except for health reasons or military. No early voting and all ballots received by Nov. 3rd. No exceptions. The existing Debate Commission also needs to either be eliminated or "revamped" to present a less biased "product". We the people our entitled to a fair & balanced presentation of both candidates to freely determine which candidate deserves our vote. The media, leaning in one direction or the other, violates the sacred privilege of free choice.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:24 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:The Dems fondest wish. OP must be a Democrat. Or a RINO.
One more federal "regulation" isn't going to kill us. In turn it would actually eliminate many state "regulations".
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:27 am to Indefatigable
Some people failed civics.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:29 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:Haters of true federalism have been saying that for 150 years, and they always have reasons that SOUND sensible. Look where it got us.
One more federal "regulation" isn't going to kill us. In turn it would actually eliminate many state "regulations".
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 7:30 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:29 am to Homesick Tiger
You would have to have a R supermajority in both the senate and house to do that.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:34 am to Concerned Senior
quote:just “wow.”
I'm not sure why our founding fathers allowed each state to do "their own thing"
Do schools not even bother teaching history anymore?
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:35 am to Homesick Tiger
I can get behind it. All I want is a fair, un-corruptible voting process. Plain and simple. Voting by mail should only be permissible in extreme cases and non-American citizens have zero business voting in our elections.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:37 am to samson73103
I always thought early voting violated that law.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:41 am to Homesick Tiger
Unfortunately, when the Democrats get in power you will get a national voting law and you definitely will not like it!
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