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It’s not the color of your skin, it’s how you conduct yourself
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:26 pm
It seems that identity politics has been the norm of the left for some time now. They want everyone to fit into these specific categories with a specific type of experience associated with each category. If you’re a white male, you’re assumed to have had X exerpience. A black male, Y experience; and so on and so forth. It’s a persistent theme of the left that the category you fit in defines who you are as a person.
Thing is, nothing could possibly be further from the truth when you get out into the world. Personally, I have many friends and aquaintenances who are white, black, asian, middle eastern, hispanic, gay, straight, etc. I don’t project stereotypes on to any of them or assume they’ve had any specific set of experiences in life. All I see is how they treat other people, how the conduct themselves, and what type of overall person they are.
I can tell you as a straight white male, I am no less likely to avoid the white biker with a leather vest, coveed in swastika tatoos than I am to avoid the black thug with fake gold teeth, baggy clothes, and a limp. Neither of these are conducting themselves in a manner that people I want to associate with tend to behave. And this is where the problem is. The left would call me a racist because of the latter, even if my best friend were a black man.
The way we conduct ourselves and treat people is what defines how others view us. If a person treats others with respect, they are reciprocated that respect. Treating others with respect will trump any statistic or stereotype there is. That is what the left (SJWs is particular) fails to understand. As conservatives, we don’t care about the color of your skin, only the content of your character.
So what’s the solution? It’s pretty basic if you ask me. We start treating people as individuals rather than lump them into a sociological group. But of course, the left will never do that. Division = votes to them.
Thing is, nothing could possibly be further from the truth when you get out into the world. Personally, I have many friends and aquaintenances who are white, black, asian, middle eastern, hispanic, gay, straight, etc. I don’t project stereotypes on to any of them or assume they’ve had any specific set of experiences in life. All I see is how they treat other people, how the conduct themselves, and what type of overall person they are.
I can tell you as a straight white male, I am no less likely to avoid the white biker with a leather vest, coveed in swastika tatoos than I am to avoid the black thug with fake gold teeth, baggy clothes, and a limp. Neither of these are conducting themselves in a manner that people I want to associate with tend to behave. And this is where the problem is. The left would call me a racist because of the latter, even if my best friend were a black man.
The way we conduct ourselves and treat people is what defines how others view us. If a person treats others with respect, they are reciprocated that respect. Treating others with respect will trump any statistic or stereotype there is. That is what the left (SJWs is particular) fails to understand. As conservatives, we don’t care about the color of your skin, only the content of your character.
So what’s the solution? It’s pretty basic if you ask me. We start treating people as individuals rather than lump them into a sociological group. But of course, the left will never do that. Division = votes to them.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:28 pm to ibleedprplngld
Leave my white privilege alone brah
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:30 pm to Wtodd
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Leave my white privilege alone brah
Just don’t forget to check your privilege, bitch.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:32 pm to ibleedprplngld
Check it? I flaunt the frick out of it
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:34 pm to ibleedprplngld
What color are Victims?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:39 pm to Lsudx256
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What color are Victims?
If the perp is white the victims are white. If the perp is black the victims are black and white.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:57 pm to ibleedprplngld
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The way we conduct ourselves and treat people is what defines how others view us.
I agree with 98% of your post. The quote above needs a little more context, I believe. I would say, "Given the opportunity to interact with someone one-on-one...."
Stereotypes are powerful and like it or not, built on some perceived truth or persistent example. Take the most obvious comparison between black and Asian college students. Admissions will stack the deck hugely in favor of black applicants and against Asian applicants. That's based on academic performance of those two racial groups. If there were such a thing as Historically Asian Colleges and Universities, they would be target number one for STEM based industries. HBCUs are so lacking they have to be evaluated on a completely different scale (hence the need for the term HBCU).
As "W" put it, it is "the soft bigotry of low expectations." African-descendant students are every bit as mentally capable as any other group. They are just patronized and alibied 50 times as much as anyone else. Once we start expecting everyone to pull their own weight equally, we will stop seeing colors as much. Anyone who has been in the military can testify to this principle.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:02 pm to ibleedprplngld
quote:What say you to the prominent posters on this board who routinely pick out and critique races for voting patterns ("muh plantation"), claim inferior IQ correlations based on race, and other similar posting behaviors that are openly counter to your point? I've not seen you in any of those threads calling your fellow conservatives out. Once again, an overly simplified partisan post blaming "the left" instead of having an honest discussion. Echo chamber going to echo chamber I suppose.
As conservatives, we don’t care about the color of your skin
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:04 pm to ibleedprplngld
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I can tell you as a straight white male
But how do you identify?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:05 pm to ibleedprplngld
Those who claim to advocate for diversity are actually perpetuating racism because they see people as collective groups rather than as individuals.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:06 pm to ibleedprplngld
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ibleedprplngld
Are you my twin?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:08 pm to ibleedprplngld
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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Unfortunately, this will never happen as long as identity politics is alive and booming in Washington D.C..
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:22 pm to Tigerdev
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What say you to the prominent posters on this board who routinely pick out and critique races for voting patterns ("muh plantation"), claim inferior IQ correlations based on race, and other similar posting behaviors that are openly counter to your point?
I know liberals tend to struggle with this so I'll try to outline it for you. I think you're mistaking pointing out statistic correlation with racism. To say that black men commit crime at a disproportion rate vs their percentage of population is NOT racist. It's just a statistical fact. To point out the voting habits of one demographic, despite the continued failure of the elected to help their "situation" is just a fact and again, NOT racist. To point of the statistical correlation between a specific demographics voting habits based on their education is, once again, NOT racist. It's just statistical facts. Sure, there are posters who use things like "muh plantation" in a attempt to make light of the situation, but they are few and far between.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:24 pm to ibleedprplngld
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I am no less likely to avoid the white biker with a leather vest, coveed in swastika tatoos than I am to avoid the black thug with fake gold teeth, baggy clothes, and a limp. Neither of these are conducting themselves in a manner that people I want to associate with tend to behave. And this is where the problem is. The left would call me a racist because of the latter, even if my best friend were a black man.
I don't think so. Seems reasonable to me.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:26 pm to ibleedprplngld
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To say that black men commit crime at a disproportion rate vs their percentage of population is NOT racist. It's just a statistical fact.
The problem is not the statement, but the conclusions drawn from such statement.
Anyway, identity politics is a loser for the dems. Racism, sexism and classism exist but they don't drop voting behavior. It comes down to the wallet for most people.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:27 pm to Tigerdev
That whataboutism is kind of melty, bud.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:33 pm to ibleedprplngld
You said 'Conservatives don't care about the color of your skin' and yet you are defending and supporting using skin color to group people for criticisms. If you thought the color of one's skin was not relevant then it wouldn't make sense to use it to categorize political attacks.
In your reply you also chose to ignore the IQ inferiority threads I mentioned (because they are highly damaging to your point).
Both sides use identity politics in different ways. What is consistent across both parties is that they only seem offended when the identity conversation goes against their position. Conservatives seem to take exception with any talk of inequality or racism (EXCEPT) when someone raises circumstances where white christian males might being negatively impacted. For liberals the obvious trigger is for women, LGBT, and minorities...
To suggest it's one side exclusively demonstrates blatant bias. Do you though.
In your reply you also chose to ignore the IQ inferiority threads I mentioned (because they are highly damaging to your point).
Both sides use identity politics in different ways. What is consistent across both parties is that they only seem offended when the identity conversation goes against their position. Conservatives seem to take exception with any talk of inequality or racism (EXCEPT) when someone raises circumstances where white christian males might being negatively impacted. For liberals the obvious trigger is for women, LGBT, and minorities...
To suggest it's one side exclusively demonstrates blatant bias. Do you though.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:34 pm to BBONDS25
Oh look. It's the guy who pretends to be a hot shot lawyer while sitting on TD Poli 18 hours a day. How's your internship going?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:54 pm to Tigerdev
How is using statistical analysis equivalent to a political attack? Using numbers to point out societal deficiencies is not akin to exploiting socioeconomic categories for political gain.
Also, I did address the “IQ Inferiority”, IQ is correlated to education, is it not?
Also, I did address the “IQ Inferiority”, IQ is correlated to education, is it not?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 3:07 pm to ibleedprplngld
The threads aren't about education. They are about raw intellect.
And you have low standards for "statistical analysis" if that's what you think that is. Saying black folks are on a "plantation" because they vote Democrat is intentionally drawing on a racially provocative reference to the institution of slavery...are you saying people don't know what they are doing? Aww shucks!
Again, people who "don't care about skin color" don't go out of their way to start threads calling out one particular race. Someone is sitting around their house and suddenly thinks to themselves "I'm going to start a thread about black people having lower IQ on the Poli Board!" You think the person that does that "doesn't care about skin color?" Come on man.
Both sides play the identity game quite regularly. Your responses in this thread say to me it only bothers you when the other side does it. Which is typical of most people on both sides.
And you have low standards for "statistical analysis" if that's what you think that is. Saying black folks are on a "plantation" because they vote Democrat is intentionally drawing on a racially provocative reference to the institution of slavery...are you saying people don't know what they are doing? Aww shucks!
Again, people who "don't care about skin color" don't go out of their way to start threads calling out one particular race. Someone is sitting around their house and suddenly thinks to themselves "I'm going to start a thread about black people having lower IQ on the Poli Board!" You think the person that does that "doesn't care about skin color?" Come on man.
Both sides play the identity game quite regularly. Your responses in this thread say to me it only bothers you when the other side does it. Which is typical of most people on both sides.
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