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It's not a crime to be pissed off when you rant about being falsely accused

Posted on 4/18/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted by 3rd Try Tiger
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 4:24 pm
Never has been. Never will be.

Mueller's attack dogs got a sniff, but not a solid bite.

Comey and the others will be indicted. Book It.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 4:30 pm to
And this is really what it was all about, the whole thing: force Trump to act in ways that seem evasive but are merely taking up for oneself, thereby hopefully creating a cloud of suspicion for as long as possible.

It was a unusually inappropriate investigation (and illegal in many ways) THUS it has called for unusual processes of response by the target...which is only fair.
Posted by 3rd Try Tiger
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 4:51 pm to
I don't know if many here have seen a person falsely accused in a professional situation, but I have.

They all act the same way. Pissed Off. Outraged. Mad.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 4:54 pm to
I turned on CNN for my monthly five minutes. They are saying that honest Bob left it up to congress to impeach. Steny Hoyer said let the voters decide.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 4:57 pm to
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It's not a crime to be pissed off when you rant about being falsely accused
Except Trump only reinforced it when he wrongly interpreted the 01/2017 article from the NYT’s about people from his campaign (Page, Manafort, etc.,) being under surveillance and accused Obama is wiretapping him.

It wasn’t even about him personally at all, yet his own fake news put himself in the center of an investigation, when he was just a common associate of those being investigated.

Not a single credible story implicated Trump himself in regards to the Russian interference or any information about the investigation. It wasn’t until the Holt interview, his own doing when he diverged from the official story regarding Comey’s firing, that he became more of a centerpiece. And that was still not about the investigation itself, just his conduct regarding it.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 5:03 pm
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 4:59 pm to
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Except Trump only reinforced it when he wrongly interpreted the 01/2016 article from the NYT’s about people from his campaign (Page, Manafort, etc.,) being under surveillance and accused Obama is wiretapping him. 

It wasn’t even about him personally at all, yet his own fake news put himself in the center of an investigation, when he was just a common associate of those being investigated


Maaaaannnnn.....

Trying to get the spin out before the Spygate investigation rips you a new one.... Nice work!
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:00 pm to
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I don't know if many here have seen a person falsely accused in a professional situation, but I have.

They all act the same way. Pissed Off. Outraged. Mad.


Spot on. Ive seen it up close and personal as well, and Trump's overall response has been EXACTLY what is expected from an innocent person. Vehemently fight for oneself.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:01 pm to
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Trying to get the spin out before the Spygate investigation rips you a new one.... Nice work!
I’ve argued this since March of 2017.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 5:03 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:03 pm to
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Except Trump only reinforced it when he wrongly interpreted the 01/2016 article from the NYT’s about people from his campaign (Page, Manafort, etc.,) being under surveillance and accused Obama is wiretapping him

Good God this is flagrantly dishonest
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:04 pm to
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It's not a crime to be pissed off when you rant about being falsely accused


That's called intent to obstruct.

Trump and Kavenaugh are both guilty of it.

People on CNN acted like it as a surprise and crime for Kavenaugh to be upset that he had to explain to his two young daughters that he's not a serial gang rapist.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 5:05 pm
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
29919 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:06 pm to
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Except Trump only reinforced it when he wrongly interpreted the 01/2017 article from the NYT’s about people from his campaign (Page, Manafort, etc.,) being under surveillance and accused Obama is wiretapping him.

It wasn’t even about him personally at all, yet his own fake news put himself in the center of an investigation, when he was just a common associate of those being investigated.

Not a single credible story implicated Trump himself in regards to the Russian interference or any information about the investigation. It wasn’t until the Holt interview, his own doing when he diverged from the official story regarding Comey’s firing, that he became more of a centerpiece. And that was still not about the investigation itself, just his conduct regarding it.


Taking all you said to be exactly true, and taking into account the findings of Mueller report, what now?
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 5:07 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:07 pm to
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Good God this is flagrantly dishonest
Trump himself wasn’t implicated in surveillance or the investigation, yet he says he was not only being investigated, his own phones were tapped. So how does that not make people think he was under some personal investigation for wrongdoing and not make people think something wrong was happening?

2 years ago I even showed the google Trends of Trump and Russian and they spiked when he said he was being wiretapped and after he fired Comey and did the Holt interview.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:09 pm to
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Taking all you said to be exactly true, and taking into account the findings of Mueller report, what now?
Move on, and everybody does whatever they were going to do anyways. If there was wrongdoing in the FBI, the DOJ can investigate that. If the Ds want to try to impeach Trump, they can do their thing too, which I doubt they will.

Edit: And soon the 2020 election campaigns will be in out full force anyways.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 5:12 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:09 pm to
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Trump himself wasn’t implicated in surveillance or the investigation, yet he says he was not only being investigated, his own phones were tapped


Oh for fricksake are you lying pieces of shite back to pretending that they didn't spy on Trump

We just spent like the last couple of weeks with all of you frickers basically saying yeah we spy but it was okay

He'll even Comey tried that shite

You people just cycle through arguments
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:11 pm to
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2 years ago I even showed the google Trends of Trump and Russian and they spiked when he said he was being wiretapped and after he fired Comey and did the Holt interview


The evidence makes it pretty flagrantly obvious that the FBI used associates as an avenue to spy on Trump

Geez
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:12 pm to
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Move on


Sweep it under the rug and move on because you didn't get what you want.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Sweep it under the rug and move on because you didn't get what you want


Exactly. We now know that the outgoing president was involved in spying on his political opponents and Democrats want us to just drive on as if this was a lost Little league baseball game
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Oh for fricksake are you lying pieces of shite back to pretending that they didn't spy on Trump
They spied on his associates, as was reported originally. There has been no credible evidence that Trump was spied on, and his own DOJ concluded the same after this request to look into it.

But I welcome the evidence since I’m sure you have it if you’re going to accuse me of lying.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Sweep it under the rug and move on because you didn't get what you want.
I’ve made the same arguments for 2+ years. I’ve made far too many comments about this topic, so you’re free to show where I said otherwise or expected some other outcome.

I stated that this would be the eventual outcome multiple times as well, although I wasn’t sure what would happen regarding the obstruction since we only found out about the behind the scenes details today.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 5:17 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29919 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Move on


I applaud you for doing so now, although there was plenty of justification to do so much sooner. And unfortunately moving on doesnt appear to be in the cards for the Dems in D.C. It simply wasnt right to cause all this upheaval and division in the country on the basis of such flimsy evidence.
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