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Italy Starts Mass Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine.. What are we waiting for?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:03 pm
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TLDR; this drug works, it's inexpensive and easy to make, it will flatten the curve if given to the masses in the outpatient (clinic) setting, there are some minor side effects which are negated since this is just a 10-14 day dose, and the benefits far outweigh the rewards since we are seeing hundreds and thousands die daily
Really amazing quotes from Professor Christian Perronne, Head of the Infectious Diseases Department at the Garches University Hospital
TLDR; this drug works, it's inexpensive and easy to make, it will flatten the curve if given to the masses in the outpatient (clinic) setting, there are some minor side effects which are negated since this is just a 10-14 day dose, and the benefits far outweigh the rewards since we are seeing hundreds and thousands die daily
Really amazing quotes from Professor Christian Perronne, Head of the Infectious Diseases Department at the Garches University Hospital
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We have just understood that the virus has an evolution in two phases and that it is during the second phase, after a few days (about a week), that the situation can suddenly, in 24 or 48 hours, worsen and leads to respiratory failure requiring intensive care.
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The results that we are starting to accumulate suggest that hydroxychloroquine administered early, gives the possibility of avoiding this evolution in a majority of patients and is also helping us to prevent hospitals from filling up.”
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“Even though the overwhelming evidence from large randomized studies is still lacking, I am in favor of a broad prescription for the following reasons:
1. We have a large body of evidence showing that in vitro hydroxychloroquine blocks the virus. We also have several clinical results indicating that this product is beneficial if administered early and we have no mention that it harms or is dangerous in this infection (only one study, poorly detailed, Chinese, on 30 patients with control group, did not observe any benefits but also no harmful effects). What is the risk of administering chloroquine straight away: nothing!
2. This drug is very inexpensive 3. It is well tolerated in long-term treatment. Personally, I have successfully used it clinically in the chronic form of Lyme disease for 30 years at a dose of 200 mg or even 400 mg/day.
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Apart from these precautions, the undesirable effects are minor. They are even more so as the treatment is short, which is the case against Covid-19.
It would therefore be wise to produce hydroxychloroquine in very large quantities without further delay, to make it easily accessible to infected people…
I note that Italy has just authorized the wide distribution of hydroxychloroquine on medical prescription from the start of the infection and that other countries are preparing to do the same. What are we waiting for? To have more dead?”
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:05 pm to OKtiger
A couple governors are against it.
Comically bad position to take.
Comically bad position to take.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:06 pm to OKtiger
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Italy Starts Mass Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine.. What are we waiting for?
Fauci's okay...after extensive tests via FDA Bureaucracy.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:07 pm to OKtiger
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it's inexpensive and easy to make
IE not enough money to be made with it...
We have got to have money made off of this shite, we need to fund tests, and trials, and all that usual shite...
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:08 pm to BuckyCheese
Once Dr. Half Whitmer approves it, we can all use it.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:09 pm to BuckyCheese
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A couple governors are against it.
Comically bad position to take.
I feel bad for their citizens. However, I feel like this needs to be rolled out massively for the next month. We can't keep these experimental trials going that only occur in the ICU when a patient is in ARDS. Hydroxy doesn't touch it..
This needs to be given prophylactically to anyone in the next month with symptoms so we can get back to work by May 1st
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:10 pm to The Maj
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IE not enough money to be made with it...
We have got to have money made off of this shite, we need to fund tests, and trials, and all that usual shite...
True.
If we had a politician in office. But we don't. We have Commander-In-Chief Trump who cannot be bought. If this is effective, you can bet Commander Trump will ensure this treatment is available for everyone.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:11 pm to OKtiger
This all sounds like a pissing contest between Fauci and Perronne. Fauci's turf has been violated.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:19 pm to OKtiger
Know a guy here in Mississippi who has corona, got pneumonia, was put in the hospital, administered hydroxychloroquine, and now is better. I guess if he were in Michigan or Nevada he might've died, and in that case if I were his family I'd sued the shite out of those dipshit governors.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:19 pm to OKtiger
If given the choice between certain impending death and risk of kidney failure so I can live, I'm definitely going to risk it if I'm an older baw.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:32 pm to OKtiger
my understanding is that it is pretty readily available, at least here in Bham
my wife knows a girl from college (Bham Southern) that tested positive & was part of a UAB clinical study with Hydroxychloroquine
the woman tested positive, was treated, and now tests negative
Trump Drug doing work -- this likely wins him the election; just about guarantees Michigan for him...
my wife knows a girl from college (Bham Southern) that tested positive & was part of a UAB clinical study with Hydroxychloroquine
the woman tested positive, was treated, and now tests negative
Trump Drug doing work -- this likely wins him the election; just about guarantees Michigan for him...
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:33 pm to dcbl
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Trump Drug
Imagine if that term caught fire
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:43 pm to dcbl
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my wife knows a girl from college (Bham Southern) that tested positive & was part of a UAB clinical study with Hydroxychloroquine
the woman tested positive, was treated, and now tests negative
I'm glad. Oklahoma allows the use with a positive test but, you just can't get a test at the moment. Our state government needs to get their shite together and obtain these tests/work with private labs OR we need to drop the requirement of a positive test and roll out massive production of the drug for treatment of all citizens at high risk/over 60, regardless of positive test (assuming their doctor approves)
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:44 pm to OKtiger
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What are we waiting for?
The MSM's approval.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:50 pm to OKtiger
If a patient can sign a DNR form and it be legal, he sure as hell ought to be able to sign a waiver form releasing medical personnel of his death if a drug, which is used for other illnesses, kills him instead of saves him. I'd imagine most anyone laid up in a hospital currently sicker than a dog would be glad to sign it.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:50 pm to BuckyCheese
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A couple governors are against it.
The Commissioner of Health in USVI issued a cease and desist for use in all but the worst hospitalized cases. I spoke to some of our hospitalists and intensivists, we all agree that it is a bull shite order. We stocked up on a few bottles of 100 to prepare. The Commissioner has a BS in nursing and MBA. Nothing against nurses but she is out of her depth. I heard that Board of Pharmacy and Medicine are drafting proposals to contramand her letter. I am on board with that. It could decrease duration and severity. That would decrease transmissions and admission to our ICU. Compassionate use in these uncertain times is reasonable.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:53 pm to IslandBuckeye
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The Commissioner has a BS in nursing and MBA.
This is the problem with most "government" health organizations... Even if the person is a Dr. they are way outside of their depth on just about everything or they have been in government so long they think in terms of government, rather than the real world...
Of course the VI is known for being corrupt and inept in a whole host of other things as well... Must be something to do with "islands"...
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:58 pm to IslandBuckeye
Why did they shut down Limeout though??
Posted on 3/31/20 at 2:03 pm to BuckyCheese
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A couple governors are against it.
The frick does any governor have a say on a medical matter? They have to be Dem governors to be stupid enough to think they are the expert on the matter. Has to be a Dem governor to be that stupid.
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