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Is the tide turning in favor of the sane?

Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:23 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18873 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:23 pm
...or am I just following all the right people on Twitter now?

It seems that everyone is bashing this new whiteness graphic and John McWhorter’s new Atlantic piece destroys De’Angelo’s White Fragility. Atlantic Article

Is it just me? Or is rationality taking control?

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56238 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:29 pm to
If that graphic is supposed to make me feel bad, it's failing miserably.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7728 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:31 pm to
Sounds like a great culture honestly
Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
1047 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:33 pm to
Bland is best?! What a horrible world this graph is describing!
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11342 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:33 pm to
I resemble that poster

Is this where I am supposed to apologize? Well, that is not going to happen.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:36 pm
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3209 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:37 pm to
How is one classified as aggressive and extroverted but also avoids conflict and intimacy? WTF.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10169 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:43 pm to
I'm beginning to think this whole BLM and ANTIFA movement is based on pure jealousy towards hard working Americans. They even attack blacks that think normal. Their whole agenda is to be given what ever they want and not work for it and blame someone else for their problems.
Posted by shadyshane1986
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2014
351 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:47 pm to
I think I’m going to print this and put it on the wall of my kids rooms.. pretty spot on!
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11276 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:49 pm to
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Bland is best?!


That was the only part that I had an issue with.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3634 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:49 pm to
After looking at that chart, I've never been more proud to be white in my life!

As a white Auburn guy:

WAR DAMN WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35584 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:53 pm to
i don't consider any of the "white culture". SUCCESSFUL black, hispanic and asian people follow those just as well as SUCCESSFUL whites.


ETA: "Steak and potatoes; bland is best"

i season my steaks.


ETA: all of those items should be "American Culture".
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:55 pm
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3634 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

i don't consider any of the "white culture". SUCCESSFUL black, hispanic and asian people follow those just as well as SUCCESSFUL whites.

EXACTLY!!
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:55 pm
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17665 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

DiAngelo’s depiction of white psychology shape-shifts according to what her dogma requires. On the one hand, she argues in Chapter 1 that white people do not see themselves in racial terms; therefore, they must be taught by experts like her of their whiteness. But for individuals who harbor so little sense of themselves as a group, the white people whom DiAngelo describes are oddly tribalist when it suits her narrative. “White solidarity,” she writes in Chapter 4, “requires both silence about anything that exposes the advantages of the white population and tacit agreement to remain racially united in the protection of white supremacy.” But if these people don’t even know whiteness is a category, just what are they now suddenly defending?
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13119 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:58 pm to
Correct if you ask me what I am. The first thing I say is I’m an American. I don’t say I’m a white man
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:59 pm to
A prayer book for a cult is a great way to describe that book also this NAILS the issue with these clowns:

quote:

We must consider what is required to pass muster as a non-fragile white person. Refer to a “bad neighborhood,” and you’re using code for Black; call it a “Black neighborhood,” and you’re a racist; by DiAngelo’s logic, you are not to describe such neighborhoods at all, even in your own head. You must not ask Black people about their experiences and feelings, because it isn’t their responsibility to educate you. Instead, you must consult books and websites. Never mind that upon doing this you will be accused of holding actual Black people at a remove, reading the wrong sources, or drawing the wrong lessons from them.


You must never cry in Black people’s presence as you explore racism, not even in sympathy, because then all the attention goes to you instead of Black people. If you object to any of the “feedback” that DiAngelo offers you about your racism, you are engaging in a type of bullying “whose function is to obscure racism, protect white dominance, and regain white equilibrium.”


quote:

That is a pretty strong charge to make against people who, according to DiAngelo, don’t even conceive of their own whiteness. But if you are white, make no mistake: You will never succeed in the “work” she demands of you. It is lifelong, and you will die a racist just as you will die a sinner.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 11:01 pm
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
4452 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:02 pm to
Missing “team first mentality over me first “.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57074 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

A prayer book for a cult is a great way to describe that book


quote:

It is lifelong, and you will die a racist just as you will die a sinner.


Yup. They've replaced religious hatred of sin with secular hatred of "racism".

I think everyone should read that POS book. Just to learn the irrationality the sane people are up against.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81253 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:15 pm to
Matt Taibbi already destroyed that POS book but sure I’ll read the Atlantic piece too
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17587 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

If that graphic is supposed to make me feel bad, it's failing miserably.


You got that right.

And to the point in the OP’s linked article, it is indeed condescendingly racist to assume that the overwhelming majority of blacks who willingly embrace a good portion of the virtues — yes virtues! — described above are in someway adopting a dominant culture which not only oppresses them but is foreign to their nature. That is flat out racism.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 11:21 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38737 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

On the one hand, she argues in Chapter 1 that white people do not see themselves in racial terms; therefore, they must be taught by experts like her of their whiteness.


This is true for me

I don't really identify with White - pretty non-descript
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