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re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by squid_hunt 
on 2/23/21 at 1:13 am to theenemy
on 2/23/21 at 1:13 am to theenemyquote:
13 would not be rape it would be Carnal Knowledge of a Juvenile if the juvenile gave consent.
Does it include registering? Because I think that's the real question.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by Rogers Hog 
on 2/23/21 at 2:09 am to Robin Masters
on 2/23/21 at 2:09 am to Robin Mastersquote:
For the record I was banned from the site for saying “a man cannot be raped by a woman”.
Just a quick question by raped do you mean penetration without prior consent? If your answer is yes have you ever been awakened by your girl riding you or blowing you?
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by ChineseBandit58 
on 2/23/21 at 3:25 am to Robin Masters
on 2/23/21 at 3:25 am to Robin MastersThere's this quaint term 'statutory' = meaning it is defined to be rape. Going I onto emotional, relativistic, human urges, does not enter the picture.
Society decreed that it is criminal for adults to have sexual relations with partners under a certain age. They just added "statutory" in front of an existing term "rape" to describe the severity of the action.
Welcome to the world of defining terms used to convey ideas.
Society decreed that it is criminal for adults to have sexual relations with partners under a certain age. They just added "statutory" in front of an existing term "rape" to describe the severity of the action.
Welcome to the world of defining terms used to convey ideas.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by ChineseBandit58 on 2/23/21 at 3:26 am to Doosh606
on 2/23/21 at 3:26 am to Doosh606quote:
come up for a word for "rich daddy's girl gets wasted and hooks up with a guy, then accuses him of rape to cover up the fact that she's a whore"
= slut
quote:
Now if we could just come up for a word for "rich daddy's girl gets wasted and hooks up with a guy, then accuses him of rape to cover up the fact that she's a whore"
Regret sex. Girls do this shite all the time and it ruins a guy's life. My idea to combat this is to give the girl the same sentence that the guy would have gotten for actually raping her.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by Robin Masters 
on 2/23/21 at 5:13 am to HubbaBubba
on 2/23/21 at 5:13 am to HubbaBubbaquote:
HubbaBubba
Thanks for sharing your story. I think yours is a perfect example of what I’m alluding to.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by the808bass on 2/23/21 at 7:15 am to Robin Masters
quote:
You think girls and boys are the same? Liberal orthodoxy seeping in?
This is one of the dumbest threads in some time.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by AggieHank86 
on 2/23/21 at 7:24 am to the808bass
on 2/23/21 at 7:24 am to the808bassquote:The letter to Penthouse Forum was interesting.
This is one of the dumbest threads in some time.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM 
on 2/23/21 at 7:36 am to Robin Masters
on 2/23/21 at 7:36 am to Robin Mastersquote:
Debate I got into on a different site: 13 yo boy has consensual, very enjoyable sex with an older teacher and then later regrets it abs develops a victim complex and thinks he was “raped”.
I have a 13 year old son right now. He's wicked smart and pretty worldly.
And without question, if a grown arse woman got him to have sex with her, it would 100% be rape. The kid is nowhere NEAR emotionally ready for any kind of sexual relationship, and certainly not with a grown woman.
This has nothing to do with snowflake bull shite...this ought to be common sense for anyone who's ever raised a kid.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by Smokeyone 
on 2/23/21 at 7:42 am to Robin Masters
on 2/23/21 at 7:42 am to Robin MastersYes he was raped because he is a child not not old enough to consent. Why is this a question?
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re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by HubbaBubba on 2/23/21 at 7:43 am to Robin Masters
on 2/23/21 at 7:43 am to Robin Mastersquote:That was sort of cathartic for me to write that out. I'd never recounted it before. Obviously, every situation is different, but the point is, whether male or female, an adult can manipulate a teenager into situations and exert psychological control. My experience is of being half terrorized by the fear being discovered, fear that she might have the power to pull me away, guilt associated with the fact it was very wrong from a moral standpoint as she was married with kids, guilt from hiding it from my parents (who never knew this was going on right under their nose), and fear that I would be ostracized at school if found out and fear that somehow my parents would get in trouble.
Thanks for sharing your story. I think yours is a perfect example of what I’m alluding to.
The point is, it's not the physical part. It's the anxiety and emotional damage that can occur.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by Smokeyone on 2/23/21 at 7:45 am to Robin Masters
on 2/23/21 at 7:45 am to Robin Mastersquote:
So then you would say this person and a woman violently penetrated against her will have had the same experience, ie “rape”?
Yes. Rape is about power and control not sex.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by greygoose 
on 2/23/21 at 7:48 am to AggieHank86
on 2/23/21 at 7:48 am to AggieHank86quote:Legitimately LOL!
The letter to Penthouse Forum was interesting.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM on 2/23/21 at 8:04 am to HubbaBubba
on 2/23/21 at 8:04 am to HubbaBubbaquote:
The point is, it's not the physical part. It's the anxiety and emotional damage that can occur.
Yup. There's absolutely no possible way my 13 year old son could cope with that situation. What's ironic in this conversation is the desire to talk only about the hormones causing sexual desire but not those causing deep emotional pulls as well.
OF COURSE we all remember being perpetually hard at 13 and thinking about sex nonstop. It seems some guys forget being totally infatuated with some girl to the point of nearly everything else fading out? All you can think about? Angry at any guy that also looks at her?
As you described so perfectly, you had a grown woman tap into that well and now as an adult can look back and see how easy it was for her to do that. Even with fond memories you see it for what it was, and can also easily see how it could have gone HORRIBLY bad if things had been even slightly different.
As much as a physical rape can scar a person, I could easily see something like this altering forever a guy's ability to have lasting relationships with women as an adult.
FTR, it's amusing that on a board that might be one of the most conservatives places on Earth, not agreeing with the OP is some form of progressive lean?
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by Wednesday on 2/23/21 at 8:09 am to Robin Masters
on 2/23/21 at 8:09 am to Robin MastersMust say this thread made me uncomfortable.
If some pervo 25 year old substitute teacher fricked one of my nephews after she groomed him (which is by the way what happens in these student teacher “relationships”) I would probably do her physical harm, and not in a sexy cat fight way.
Robin Masters- you seem to be projecting an adolescent fantasy. Adolescent fantasy is normal. However, in no way shape or form is a grown woman fricking a 13 yr old boy healthy behavior that shouldn’t be criminal.
Plus. I love how you think men have absolutely zero estrogen and women have absolutely zero testosterone in their bodies.
If some pervo 25 year old substitute teacher fricked one of my nephews after she groomed him (which is by the way what happens in these student teacher “relationships”) I would probably do her physical harm, and not in a sexy cat fight way.
Robin Masters- you seem to be projecting an adolescent fantasy. Adolescent fantasy is normal. However, in no way shape or form is a grown woman fricking a 13 yr old boy healthy behavior that shouldn’t be criminal.
Plus. I love how you think men have absolutely zero estrogen and women have absolutely zero testosterone in their bodies.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by honeybadger07 on 2/23/21 at 8:21 am to Robin Masters
on 2/23/21 at 8:21 am to Robin MastersWtf is wrong with you to think a 13 yo boy cannot be raped? Do you not have children?
This “adult” coerced this kid into doing what she wanted. Get a fricking clue
This “adult” coerced this kid into doing what she wanted. Get a fricking clue
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by Robin Masters on 2/23/21 at 9:26 am to HubbaBubba
on 2/23/21 at 9:26 am to HubbaBubbaquote:
That was sort of cathartic for me to write that out. I'd never recounted it before. Obviously, every situation is different, but the point is, whether male or female, an adult can manipulate a teenager into situations and exert psychological control. My experience is of being half terrorized by the fear being discovered, fear that she might have the power to pull me away, guilt associated with the fact it was very wrong from a moral standpoint as she was married with kids, guilt from hiding it from my parents (who never knew this was going on right under their nose), and fear that I would be ostracized at school if found out and fear that somehow my parents would get in trouble.
The point is, it's not the physical part. It's the anxiety and emotional damage that can occur.
Thanks again for sharing.
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by Robin Masters on 2/23/21 at 9:34 am to Wednesday
on 2/23/21 at 9:34 am to Wednesdayquote:
Robin Masters- you seem to be projecting an adolescent fantasy. Adolescent fantasy is normal. However, in no way shape or form is a grown woman fricking a 13 yr old boy healthy behavior that shouldn’t be criminal.
Thanks for the dime store psychoanalysis. I’m not sure where you got the idea that I think it’s normal. My point was should a 13 yo who has consensual sex with a woman great than 18, enjoys it immensely, but then later has some regret, be made or even allowed to feel they have been violated in the same manner as a woman who was forcibly and brutally penetrated by a man.
I think not, yet many here and elsewhere want to create a valse victim hood for this hypothetical person.
For the record I actually have a 13yo boy so spare me the false indignation. And for the record I have a grandmother who was brutally raped by two men. I can assure you, based on what I know of that experience, her and this13yo boy have nothing in common.
This post was edited on 2/23 at 9:36 am
re: Is it “rape”?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger 
on 2/23/21 at 10:30 am to Robin Masters
on 2/23/21 at 10:30 am to Robin Mastersquote:
13 yo boy
Doesn't have the brain function to make reasonable decisions.
quote:
an older teacher
is in a position of power precisely because he or she should have the ability to make reasonable decisions.
quote:
Was he?
Yes.
quote:
what do you can it when a man violently penetrates a woman against her will
Rape.
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