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Dale51
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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Dare you to claim Trump does not lie every single time he opens his mouth.


You're not a serious person.


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Dale51
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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There is a pretty big difference between an single cell at conception and when a newborn.


How is the combination of sperm and egg "a single cell"?


bmy
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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As an example on the topic of abortion, many conservatives believe a unique individual is created at conception, whereas most progressives would not deny there is unique DNA created at conception but the moment of conception is meaningless when establishing whether it’s a unique individual....a life, a child.

At this point many conservatives are finished establishing when a life is brought forth but progressives have a lot of explaining, hem hawing and general confusion going forward.


Good example. Can't get rid of viable embryos because its murder. We need to start locking IVF doctors up.
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TbirdSpur2010
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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conservatives are being slightly dishonest as well. You know that the majority of abortions are black women and that white families usually have the resources to get the operation if needed. I assume this is because in your own way, you believe this will force Blacks to change their behavior. The flaw is that immediate evidence on how most poor Black families operate debunks this.


You come up with some wild premises and suppositions. Conservatives aren't trying to use abortion as some cudgel to change black behavior. Just trying to keep babies from being killed. Only time race enters the discussion is wanting to prevent a disproportionate number of black children being murdered en utero.

To try to couch that sentiment as a dishonest attempt to obfuscate conservative racism is truly disingenuous.


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SammyTiger
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
Bruh

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when presented with two competing ideas, the simpler one is more likely to be correct


More likely =\= always


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SammyTiger
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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How is the combination of sperm and egg "a single cell"?


They each carry half the DNA a human needs so they have to merge into 1 cell before they DNA can replicate like a normal cell.



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SammyTiger
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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You claim consciousness as the litmus test for life? Come now, you or I don’t remember a thing when we were just born, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years,


Memory =\= consciousness

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I gave you the easy way out earlier...take it.


Oh thank you for simplifying this for me.

If I had To think about a complicated issue it might be hard.

I’m not over thinking I’m actually thinking.

Simply throwing out everything that happens from a cell to a baby is a bit fricking dumb.



deathvalleytiger10
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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Just saying this a lesson in 'the company you keep'.


Guilty by association you say? Guess Obama is a terrorist since he is pals with Bill Ayers.

Funny how stupidity works.


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pizzatiger
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
A post about intellectualism that sounds like it was written by a fifth grader


Champagne
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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Dare you to claim Trump does not lie every single time he opens his mouth.


You are a shining example of the Totally Indoctrinated Person!! Congratulations!

"The Indoctrinated Person will accept and defend any absurdity presented by Leftist Ideology and the application thereof."

-- The TD dude known as Champagne




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kingbob
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
It's a feature of Marxism. The ends always justify the means, thus any argument that advances your agenda is a-ok. Lying, obfuscating, intellectual dishonesty, contradiction, etc, none of that matters so long as you advance the narrative of the day and push the conversation more and more towards Marxism.


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Bass Tiger
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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quote: Ask a progressive when is it a child, you’ll get some really imaginative answers that y’all have heard but the answer they won’t give that ends the conversation is quite simple.....here I’ll help some of my PT Prog/Dim leftists with this sticky question and you can shut pro life people down when this question inevitably comes up. Are you ready? IT’S A CHILD WHEN THE WOMAN DECIDES IT’S A CHILD UP TO AND INCLUDING BIRTH! As a rule, I dont believe in abortion beyond the 3 month period. Going further, I believe some form of emergency contraception like plan B should be used if involuntary or "accidental" insemination occurs. I'm sure there are many far leftists who fall into your definition. They dont care about conception, only that the woman has total control. And this stems from the biological fact that men can sleep with women and leave them with the responsibility. They never mention how the system is rigged to support single mothers, but i digress.





That said, conservatives are being slightly dishonest as well. You know that the majority of abortions are black women and that white families usually have the resources to get the operation if needed. I assume this is because in your own way, you believe this will force Blacks to change their behavior. The flaw is that immediate evidence on how most poor Black families operate debunks this. I'm okay with the abortion ban because at worst, it punishes t




I'm not being dishonest at all, I believe it's a new creation/life at conception. This fallacy of sticking the mother with a child she can't raise is exactly that, a fallacy. There's a waiting list for couples waiting for newborn adoptions. Twenty three years ago my wife and myself were on such a waiting list for a biracial child....God answered our prayers.


kingbob
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
The problem isn't that women are being forced to carry children they don't want. The problem is that our government has made the birthing and adoption processes unnecessarily long, expensive, and burdensome on people. There is no reason it should take months to adopt an American child. There is no reason it should cost tens of thousands of dollars. It should be a background check, an interview, and please take this baby no one wants ASAP. If anything, we should be PAYING married couples to adopt babies rather than the other way around.


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Bass Tiger
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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A post about intellectualism that sounds like it was written by a fifth grader


Duh, I had to dumb it down for you mental midgets, what's telling is your inability to refute the OP in any fashion.
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Crimson1st
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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Don’t twist your mind up in knots. Either life begins at conception or life begins when a woman decides she wants the child....keep it simple so you’re not needlessly chasing your tail.


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Not everything has a clear black and white answer.

There is no developmental difference between a baby the day before it’s born and the day it’s born.

There is a pretty big difference between an single cell at conception and when a newborn.

The simple answer isn’t always the right one.


The law sees a "fetus" as being a life if the Mother wants it. Look at all the laws which punishes the perp for a second count of murder/manslaughter if the baby dies in the commission of a crime but unwanted babies can still be aborted legally up to birth in many areas when they aren't wanted. Seems pretty simple to me based on wanted vs unwanted to me if we are using the law as a judgment standard taking other things out of the equation. What standard do you suggest using to settle the argument?


Bass Tiger
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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The law sees a "fetus" as being a life if the Mother wants it. Look at all the laws which punishes the perp for a second count of murder/manslaughter if the baby dies in the commission of a crime but unwanted babies can still be aborted legally up to birth in many areas when they aren't wanted. Seems pretty simple to me based on wanted vs unwanted to me if we are using the law as a judgment standard taking other things out of the equation. What standard do you suggest using to settle the argument?


Most progressives, if pressed, will eventually admit that it is the woman who decides if it's a baby based on the woman's intentions to carry the baby full term. They don't like to admit that because it opens up so many cans of worms .....the most troublesome is the omission of any scientific definition of when a child is a child, this aspect is painful for progressives because they love to cite science when defending many of their political beliefs.


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BamaAtl
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
You guys know tax cuts don't pay for themselves, but you keep lying and saying that they do.

Who's the dishonest one?



Crimson1st
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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You guys know tax cuts don't pay for themselves, but you keep lying and saying that they do.



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Who's the dishonest one?



You are apparently since you make baseless claims without any evidence in your post to support it.


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NC_Tigah
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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You guys know tax cuts don't pay for themselves
Tax revenues rose 2% to $2.041 trillion in the first seven months of fiscal 2019.
Tax revenue from higher corporate profits significantly offset lower rates.
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Tax Revenue Keeps Rising
The federal deficit is increasing, and the reason is spending.

May 12, 2019

You wouldn’t know it from the press coverage, but there’s some modest good news about the federal budget. The deficit is rising, but not as much as feared because tax revenues are increasing due to faster economic growth.

The Congressional Budget Office reports in its April budget review that revenues rose 2% to $2.041 trillion in the first seven months of fiscal 2019 from a year ago. Payroll tax revenue rose 4.7% due in part to rising employment and wages.

... April was the deadline for final 2018 tax payments for most corporations, and tax revenue from higher corporate profits partly offset the lower rate.

Overall revenues increased despite a sharp decline in payments to the Treasury from the Federal Reserve of $15 billion, or 34%. The decline is due to higher short-term interest rates that lead the Fed to pay banks more interest on their reserves. Watch this account closely in the future if the Fed’s reserve payments become a net Treasury drain. This is one cost of the Fed maintaining a very large balance sheet.

So why has the federal deficit increased by $145 billion this fiscal year to $531 billion? Because federal spending continued to rise rapidly—

LINK


Bass Tiger
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re: Is it a prerequisite to be intellectually dishonest to be a Dim?
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You guys know tax cuts don't pay for themselves, but you keep lying and saying that they do. Who's the dishonest one?


Really? We're going to discuss US tax policy to determine who's honest or dishonest? Our country is in a serious unsustainable debt spiral because of out of control entitlements and wasteful spending of our tax dollars and you want to start your weak azz presence in this thread with that BS. It's you and your ilk that has contributed the lion's share to create this debt debacle. You can tax every 1%'er at a 70% tax rate and you won't solve the runaway debt spiral without addressing a myriad of other reasons that are contributing. Here, I got some advice for all you Prog/Dim worthless pieces of shit, take 10% of your net pay, not your gross, and donate it back to the government so y'all can meet the necessary financial obligations required to fund the US entitlement burden, once you do that then you can get into a thread such as this and run your yapper!
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