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Is Hamilton cultural appropriation?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:49 pm
Saw it live and it was great.
Shockingly accurate historically (did not expect that).
The fact that the actors playing the parts were not all white did not bother me in the least. I would hope that adding "color" to such a fantastic TRUE story would make the history of America and its early years accessible and acceptable to people (notwithstanding current events).
But I can't help but think if a similar story was played by actors of a different race/ethnicity of the actual historical figures (for example, Gary Oldman playing MLK, Jr.), there would be a firestorm.
Something troubling about that.
Regardless, if you have not seen it and have Disney+, you absolutely should watch it.
Shockingly accurate historically (did not expect that).
The fact that the actors playing the parts were not all white did not bother me in the least. I would hope that adding "color" to such a fantastic TRUE story would make the history of America and its early years accessible and acceptable to people (notwithstanding current events).
But I can't help but think if a similar story was played by actors of a different race/ethnicity of the actual historical figures (for example, Gary Oldman playing MLK, Jr.), there would be a firestorm.
Something troubling about that.
Regardless, if you have not seen it and have Disney+, you absolutely should watch it.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 10:53 pm
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:51 pm to udtiger
“And back to the Jackson Five Story, starring the Allman Brothers!”
“And now back to Zorro starring John Wayne!”
“And now back to Zorro starring John Wayne!”
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:52 pm to udtiger
I've not seen it, never will, but clearly, race swapping every single character is the very definition of appropriation.
Problem is, those who did it have no intention of emulating the greatness of the Founders.
Best I can tell it's to mock and ridicule them by today's woke standards.
Problem is, those who did it have no intention of emulating the greatness of the Founders.
Best I can tell it's to mock and ridicule them by today's woke standards.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:53 pm to udtiger
Friend:
frick Rap.
frick Disney.
frick SJW bullshite.
Yours,
Kaffy
frick Rap.
frick Disney.
frick SJW bullshite.
Yours,
Kaffy
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:55 pm to udtiger
Hamilton = Father of Deep State.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:57 pm to Kafka
quote:
Friend:
frick Rap.
frick Disney.
frick SJW bullshite.
Yours,
Kaffy
With you.
Went in expecting to hate it. Teenage daughter (no pics you degenerates) was all caught up in the hype and wanted to see it.
It was shockingly accurate.
It was very entertaining.
It was not the hip hop/(c)rap fest I was expecting.
Will be interesting to see how the live stage play will translate to TV.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:59 pm to udtiger
Hell speaking English is for any non-English immigrants if you want to get technical.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:20 pm to AURaptor
quote:
Problem is, those who did it have no intention of emulating the greatness of the Founders.
Best I can tell it's to mock and ridicule them by today's woke standards.
Not true at all. The show reveres and admires the founding fathers and is very pro-America.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:27 pm to udtiger
Let a white man play MLK and you will have your answer.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:40 pm to udtiger
quote:
if you have not seen it and have Disney+, you absolutely should watch it.
Stop giving money to people that want to push degeneracy onto your children.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:44 pm to udtiger
quote:
Shockingly accurate historically
No
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:18 am to DeusVultMachina
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quote:
Shockingly accurate historically
No
Compared to what I was expecting, yes.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:19 am to teke184
quote:
“And back to the Jackson Five Story, starring the Allman Brothers!”
The Osmond Brothers, not Allman Brothers.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:21 am to udtiger
It absolutely is...
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:28 am to DeusVultMachina
quote:
No
Supposedly, the Ron Chernow biography inspired, so the story line is likely somewhat accurate.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:28 am to udtiger
quote:
Compared to what I was expecting, yes.
Same. He has to take some liberties for entertainment purposes, Mostly with how they all met in real life, but the gist of the story is very accurate.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:29 am to udtiger
quote:
I would hope that adding "color" to such a fantastic TRUE story would make the history of America and its early years accessible and acceptable to people (notwithstanding current events).
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:13 am to udtiger
Cultural appropriation (which is bullshite IMO) is removing all context from a very specific cultural artifact for your own entertainment.
Hamilton is not in any way related to that. Historical events are not cultural artifacts. Hamilton doesn't remove context from the events it portrays, it adds far more context than most K-12 education has ever covered.
LMM was making a statement that these events should be seen just as meaningful to black and Latino history as they are to white Americans, while making parallels between debates over the size and scope of government, immigration, political scandal, etc that continue today.
Hamilton is not in any way related to that. Historical events are not cultural artifacts. Hamilton doesn't remove context from the events it portrays, it adds far more context than most K-12 education has ever covered.
LMM was making a statement that these events should be seen just as meaningful to black and Latino history as they are to white Americans, while making parallels between debates over the size and scope of government, immigration, political scandal, etc that continue today.
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