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Is An objective view of Donald Trump possible?
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:51 am
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:51 am
I would vote for him 1000 times out of 1000 times over Clinton and Biden
He was FANTASTIC for the economy and calling out the lies. Anyone who disagrees is legitimately retarded.
With that said - he shut the country down, printed a shite TON of money in 2020 (or allowed it, whatever), trusted Fauci, didn’t REALLY fight mail in ballots, didn’t clean out the administrative and military filth that still exists today, and didn’t really fight against big tech censorship and it’s butt-raping relationship with the government
I realize he could “only do so much” but that stance, in itself, admits it was too late…the liberals won. Do you really believe that?
Is an objective opinion on Trump even possible?
He was FANTASTIC for the economy and calling out the lies. Anyone who disagrees is legitimately retarded.
With that said - he shut the country down, printed a shite TON of money in 2020 (or allowed it, whatever), trusted Fauci, didn’t REALLY fight mail in ballots, didn’t clean out the administrative and military filth that still exists today, and didn’t really fight against big tech censorship and it’s butt-raping relationship with the government
I realize he could “only do so much” but that stance, in itself, admits it was too late…the liberals won. Do you really believe that?
Is an objective opinion on Trump even possible?
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:53 am to theunknownknight
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Is an objective opinion on Trump even possible?
Yes, by objective people.
There were tons of things about him that rubbed me the wrong way ie. embellishing pretty much everything he talked about etc.
But I'm like you - he was great for the country, great for the perception of a strong America and would vote for him 1000/1000 times. I do think his second term would've been a lot off inflammatory though.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:55 am to theunknownknight
Yes - look at Ben Shapiro. He praises trump at times, and criticizes him when he thinks he deserves it.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:56 am to Rocco Lampone
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Yes - look at Ben Shapiro. He praises trump at times, and criticizes him when he thinks he deserves it.
But Ben Shapiro, for all his strengths, is in reality, a little slow
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:57 am to theunknownknight
Just be thankful that Trump opened many peoples eyes to the crooked left. That was the purpose. If you actually thought he would do something about it in the 4 years he had then you’re delusional. Even if he gets elected to be the president in 2024 that still wouldn’t be enough time. It’s just not enough time to take them down. This would take years to fix. Hopefully someone can finish the job that Trump started.
This post was edited on 11/5/21 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:59 am to theunknownknight
No. Even before he ran everyone had an opinion of Trump.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:01 pm to theunknownknight
That's pretty objective. His positives and negatives. Toss in that he is a narcissist but that makes him want to satisfy his supporters and do a good job in order to have them praise him.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:01 pm to theunknownknight
when compared to other candidates and presidents, trump is a home run.
people like to view him singularly, not comparatively.
he did handle the covid propaganda horribly. he always thinks he can make a deal and let himself and the country down in the process.
still one of the best presidents we've ever had. he started fixing the mess made by the last 4 administrations and put his country AND countrymen first.
people don't want to be objective. they just decide to use "personality" and "psychological" reasons for why orange man bad. propaganda.
they think what the media and "experts" tell them to think.
we have a country full of people who don't know how to/can't think for themselves, so they just frontrun with whoever appeals to their vanity and emotions. bandwagon sports fans are similar.
people like to view him singularly, not comparatively.
he did handle the covid propaganda horribly. he always thinks he can make a deal and let himself and the country down in the process.
still one of the best presidents we've ever had. he started fixing the mess made by the last 4 administrations and put his country AND countrymen first.
people don't want to be objective. they just decide to use "personality" and "psychological" reasons for why orange man bad. propaganda.
they think what the media and "experts" tell them to think.
we have a country full of people who don't know how to/can't think for themselves, so they just frontrun with whoever appeals to their vanity and emotions. bandwagon sports fans are similar.
This post was edited on 11/5/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:56 pm to theunknownknight
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Is An objective view of Donald Trump possible?
Yes, and it's not very hard.Trump ran on and was elected on a purely populist message. In the white house he turned his back on that message and let lifelong senators run his administration just like any other uniparty conservative would.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:20 pm to theunknownknight
I love what Trump did as far as his policy. With trade, international diplomacy, and military swagger, he had the USA humming. His economic policies even outshned everything else.
Aside from that? He's a vulgar, loud, crass, Yankee New Yorker with a huge ego and an even bigger mouth. He really needed to dial back the stupid tweets and have at least three trusted staffers review every post before he hit "submit". His face to face destruction of libs, I found to be much more acceptable because it seemed less petty when he was verbally eviscerating someone right to their face.
That's my objective opinion of him. I'd probably be annoyed to have to sit and have a meal with him. We have very little in common outside of a love for what America should be... BUT, I will also be voting for him again in 2024 unless I die before then and Kamala ends up with my vote.
You can dislike someone's character and like their policies. Conversely, you can detest someone's political views but think they're a generally good person (I feel this way about Carville).
Aside from that? He's a vulgar, loud, crass, Yankee New Yorker with a huge ego and an even bigger mouth. He really needed to dial back the stupid tweets and have at least three trusted staffers review every post before he hit "submit". His face to face destruction of libs, I found to be much more acceptable because it seemed less petty when he was verbally eviscerating someone right to their face.
That's my objective opinion of him. I'd probably be annoyed to have to sit and have a meal with him. We have very little in common outside of a love for what America should be... BUT, I will also be voting for him again in 2024 unless I die before then and Kamala ends up with my vote.
You can dislike someone's character and like their policies. Conversely, you can detest someone's political views but think they're a generally good person (I feel this way about Carville).
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:51 pm to TigerAxeOK
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I'd probably be annoyed to have to sit and have a meal with him.
I think you might be pleasantly surprised...if you haven't
seen this video (30min.) of a roundtable of inner city
pastors its well worth the watch. He is a totally different
person when he is not in front of antagonistic, hostile,
MSM types. It also completely destroys their "racist"
narrative.
LINK
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:42 pm to theunknownknight
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I realize he could “only do so much” but that stance, in itself, admits it was too late
No, it has nothing to do with 'admits too late.' It means what it says 'he could only do so much.'
He did 1,000 x more house cleaning than a republican president named Bush.
He took advice from people who were supposed to be experts in the field. He is not an expert in 100 major fields. A president cannot micromanage everything.
It's all comparative. And compared to other presidents he did more things right than any president since Reagan.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:48 pm to theunknownknight
Here's an objective view of Trump:
He was an American worker first political moderate who the left painted as Jesse Helms.
He was an American worker first political moderate who the left painted as Jesse Helms.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:50 pm to theunknownknight
I think all Presidents are a mixed bag because all people are. Nobody alive is 100% consistent to any other person. People follow their own internal logic.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:52 pm to theunknownknight
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With that said - he shut the country down, printed a shite TON of money in 2020 (or allowed it, whatever), trusted Fauci, didn’t REALLY fight mail in ballots, didn’t clean out the administrative and military filth that still exists today, and didn’t really fight against big tech censorship and it’s butt-raping relationship with the government
I realize he could “only do so much” but that stance, in itself, admits it was too late…the liberals won. Do you really believe that?
I use to think this ^^^^ also, but I truly believe it was Trump and a handful of his loyal staff against the full powef and force of the DC Establishment/Swamp……Trump was ill equipped or prepared to face what confronted his presidency.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:53 pm to theunknownknight
quote:agreed
FANTASTIC for the economy
I was hoping for him to reduce the debt while in office. It didn't take long to realize he had no issues spending money.
I liked the idea of making the NATO countries pay up
I liked the idea of making countries pay for defense.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:53 pm to idlewatcher
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There were tons of things about him that rubbed me the wrong way ie. embellishing pretty much everything he talked about etc.
Thats what politicians do no?
Every story out of bidens mouth is a fricking embellishment.
If you are a republican, then WMD was an embellishment if not an out right lie.
I just find some of the things people dont like about trump is legit 10 fold on every other jag off that has ran for pres in my lifetime.
Al gore invented the internet and has been embellishing climate change. Perfect example of a jack off.
This post was edited on 11/5/21 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 11/5/21 at 5:34 pm to RightHook
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he did handle the covid propaganda horribly.
No - he didn't handle it 'perfectly' - if that standard of perfection is known even today.
What he did was the best he could with the unfolding crisis and the political factions whose only interest was in derailing anything he suggested or tried to do whether it had any rational support or not.
He was fighting a well prepared and mega-financed foe - China + the NWIO cultists + the treasonous cabal of DEMs/Media/Entertainment(includes pro 'sports) + Educational empires who all are interested in nothing more than their own corrupt oligarchal status in the eventual all-powerful tyranny they are trying to impose on us.
Looking back I am shocked Trump was able to accomplish as much as he did - economic revival, sane trade policy, America First in foreign relations, impending peace in the mid-east, energy independence, immigration control, and ignoring social norms ushered by all the 'political correctness' dictates of the past 4 decades.
This is the legacy of an 8 year tenure - all accomplished within 4 years that there hobbled by constant prosecutorial malfeasance tying up all his administration personnel, constant hounding by the main-stream media (enemies of the state) whose only objective was to stop any progress during his tenure and whose method was to drone on constant propaganda. The public at large went a full ten years without significant amounts of real TRUTH being a common commodity - nothing but hoax after hoax shaping the 'narrative' that is not part of the 'information base' most of our young people must rely on.
It is a miracle we have no fallen off the cliff.
I am now of the opinion that a lesser narcissist than Trump would not have been able to stand up the unprecedented corruption intent on changing the course of America.
We MAY be in a situation now -- due to Trump's time as the whipping boy -- where a more 'normal' politician like DeSantis, Cruz, Rand, Pompeo, or a number of others could take up the cudgel.
Nothing shaped by human hands is perfect - When you consider the headwinds and the opposition Trump faced, there may not have been another person in all out history who could have stepped in and stopped the HRC takeover five years ago.
Thank GOD for Donald Trump.
At least we still are hanging in there with some hope.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 5:38 pm to theunknownknight
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With that said - he shut the country down, printed a shite TON of money in 2020 (or allowed it, whatever), trusted Fauci, didn’t REALLY fight mail in ballots, didn’t clean out the administrative and military filth that still exists today, and didn’t really fight against big tech censorship and it’s butt-raping relationship with the government
You forgot about Jared and all of Trump's Jew worship.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 5:40 pm to theunknownknight
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With that said - he shut the country down, printed a shite TON of money in 2020 (or allowed it, whatever), trusted Fauci, didn’t REALLY fight mail in ballots, didn’t clean out the administrative and military filth that still exists today, and didn’t really fight against big tech censorship and it’s butt-raping relationship with the government
He gave his daughter to them. And look at some of his ridiculous pardons. He may not be as on your side as you want him to be.
Undeniably he was better than a lot of other choices, probably all of them, and was very entertaining.
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