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re: Iraq War veteran Thomas Sanford ID’d as gunman who attacked Grand Blanc LDS church

Posted on 9/28/25 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/28/25 at 5:35 pm to
What base would marine families be stationed at in Park city?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 5:43 pm to
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who served in Iraq from 2004-2008.




People dont even try anymore.

He may have been in the Corps from 2004-2008 but he did not serve in Iraq from 2004-2008.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7972 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 5:45 pm to
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What base would marine families be stationed at in Park city?

Looks like there are a bunch of stations around the Salt Lake City area.

Still total speculation.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
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158026 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:04 pm to
Gotcha.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11787 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:16 pm to
Frankly he looks crazy in that marine corps pic
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13493 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:35 pm to
The shooter’s Facebook profile is still up (search “Tom Sanford michigan” he’s the one from Atlas, MI and has some clouds as his profile picture).

He posted a bunch of stuff that was anti-Biden, pro-Trump, and anti-mask. Also had shared some stuff from Turning Point USA, and had a quote from Reagan that was anti-socialism.
Posted by CSinLC
Member since May 2018
2419 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:34 pm to
Another day. Another mass shooting. Are we coarse to this yet?
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3915 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:10 pm to
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That's a long time ago...


Once a Marine, always a Marine! Semper Fi!
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7972 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:55 pm to
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He posted a bunch of stuff that was anti-Biden, pro-Trump, and anti-mask. Also had shared some stuff from Turning Point USA, and had a quote from Reagan that was anti-socialism.

Yeah makes zero sense, in any way.

Wonder if he had CTE from his time in the marines.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15817 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:58 pm to
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I'm guessing it's domestic


Yeah, that sounds must convenient. I agree.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1395 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 11:30 pm to
According to the gentlemen in the video below, Thomas Sanford, did not like Mormons.

Posted by DocYatesVA
Yukon, OK
Member since Oct 2022
350 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:42 am to
One too has to wonder if maybe this was directed against the Mormon community because of the CK assassination, and the belief by some that it was directed against CK because of his issue with the Mormon faith. Lots of crazy people out there with some crazy conspiracy theories.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
95034 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:09 am to
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Someone on Twitter said his FB profile has “86 47” on it


Is this not fricking exhausting to everyone?

WhoTF cares what side politically he’s on? All anyone is hoping for is for the crazed lunatic moron who decided he wanted to kill people and commit suicide by cop to be on the opposite side politically for brownie points.

WhoTF cares? Innocent people living their normal lives went to church today and died. Got shot or burnt up. That’s awful no matter where ANYONE stands politically. Yet, here we are hoping it’s one side or the other so there’s bragging rights on social media. Because in the end, that’s all anyone wants. Is to have ammo for a never ending argument on the internet with strangers. And it’s a major part of this country’s divide.


It’s exhausting. People need to grow tf up.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 6:10 am
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10118 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:14 am to
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Is this not fricking exhausting to everyone? WhoTF cares what side politically he’s on? All anyone is hoping for is for the crazed lunatic moron who decided he wanted to kill people and commit suicide by cop to be on the opposite side politically for brownie points. WhoTF cares? Innocent people living their normal lives went to church today and died. Got shot or burnt up. That’s awful no matter where ANYONE stands politically. Yet, here we are hoping it’s one side or the other so there’s bragging rights on social media. Because in the end, that’s all anyone wants. Is to have ammo for a never ending argument on the internet with strangers. And it’s a major part of this country’s divide. It’s exhausting. People need to grow tf up.


Agree. Looking for a motive in this crime, or any crime, is foolish and wrong. We can avoid these crimes in the future without looking for their root cause in the present.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:19 am to
He is wearing a "Make Liberals Cry Again" shirt. might post here
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 6:20 am
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7972 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:20 am to
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WhoTF cares? Innocent people living their normal lives went to church today and died.

Of course we need motives.

He was a PTSD vet who was pro Trump, possibly had CTE, had stress from his kids health problems, and seems to have hated Mormons for some reason.

Unlike the left this means we on the right need to take steps.

1. If there are any corners of the right that is anti Mormon we should push back on that, they are Americans who have every right to believe what they believe, they have good and bad people, just like everyone else. Push back the same way William Buckley pushed back against antisemitism in the Conservative movement in the 1960s.
2. More veteran support for PTSD.
3. Support for Veteran CTE evals
4. That was bad, that was evil, we on the right need to make sure it doesnt happen again.

You will have heard none of these things from the left, but Trump was instantly saying things that people on the left were canceled for saying about Charlie Kirk.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2080 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:31 am to
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We can avoid these crimes in the future without looking for their root cause in the present.


Please explain..

I'm old school where I believe we need to figure out why something is happening specifically to stop it from happening in the future. but I'm just some dumb broad, what do I know.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39737 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:37 am to
Wondering how we “push back” against the masses who have psychoses by relative degrees from many scenarios? From cultural/family scenarios to military.

I think we “need a bigger boat “.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10118 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:37 am to
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quote:We can avoid these crimes in the future without looking for their root cause in the present.


Please explain..


I have sarcasm issues
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
26284 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:39 am to
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I don’t agree with all their beliefs but every Mormon I’ve ever know seem to be the kindest folks on earth


Same here. I have met several over the years and they are always polite.
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