Innocent until proven guilty?

Women are crazy. Everyone knows this.

Well, then let's go round up those Duke lacrosse players and throw them in the slammer.

She's a musical genius, not an actual genius.

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basically saying we should always believe the alleged victim.

What is going on? This is a very dangerous path to go down.

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Not sure what your point is here. Should we stop prosecuting crimes in this country?

I could be wrong, but I believe that what these people are saying is, we should take seriously the allegations, not that we should throw everyone in jail who is accused of a crime.

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Innocent until proven guilty?

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Isn't it interesting how views change when the shoe is on the other foot.

Weren't folks on this board advocating for rounding up all Muslims, for no other reason than...they're Muslims?

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Innocent until proven guilty?



Isn't it interesting how views change when the shoe is on the other foot.

Weren't folks on this board advocating for rounding up all Muslims, for no other reason than...they're Muslims?



No. They weren’t.

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You may have a point. Folks here were advocating for the murder of Muslim, for no other reason than...they're Muslims.

Good catch.

The presumption of innocence applies in criminal cases where in we have a burden of proof “beyond a reasonable doubt.“. I get so very tired of people across the political spectrum attempting to apply this standard in a broader sense. Put simply, it is idiotic.

Should we believe an accuser in instances of reported sexual assault? On the much lower standard of “preponderance of the evidence,“ I DO tend to give the accuser the benefit of the doubt… In the complete absence of any other evidence. Of course, the case in which there is an “absence of any other evidence“ is extraordinarily rare.

Attaboy. Ignore the obvious point to beat your own dead horse.

All absolutely true, which is where “absence of any other evidence” comes into play.

In the case of Ford, the suspicious timing of her accusation was evidence for many. Her political background and ties... the way the allegations were funneled through political channels... the people she surrounded herself with.

While there may have been no hard evidence, a reasonable person has to understand that there can be none if she’s lying. Possible motives to lie can’t be dismissed, and that’s exactly what the media did in this case.

This is a lofty concept well removed from job interviews, brah

When you interview for a job, any allegations are assumed true, even if they are shaky with no corroboration and no way for you to disprove them