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In reality, we should have at least 4 major political parties now
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:15 pm
It doesn't make any sense to basically only have 2 major political parties at this point.
If we were all being reasonable, the far left, lunatic socialist commmie anarchists should be on one party, the Pelosi-Schumer leftist dem establishment should be one party, the never trumpers and the joe manchins of the world should be one party, and the hardline conservative Trump-loving patriots should be one party.
But it will never change.
All American politicians have to do is look at other countries. Some party may win, and then they have to find a governing partner to actually get anything done.
This way, the communist Bernie's of the world can masquerade as a democrat, while actually being a pure bolshevik, who spent his senate career running as an independent.
You got s 50-50 shot now...why change.
If we were all being reasonable, the far left, lunatic socialist commmie anarchists should be on one party, the Pelosi-Schumer leftist dem establishment should be one party, the never trumpers and the joe manchins of the world should be one party, and the hardline conservative Trump-loving patriots should be one party.
But it will never change.
All American politicians have to do is look at other countries. Some party may win, and then they have to find a governing partner to actually get anything done.
This way, the communist Bernie's of the world can masquerade as a democrat, while actually being a pure bolshevik, who spent his senate career running as an independent.
You got s 50-50 shot now...why change.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:18 pm to Jack Ruby
If you wanna see things get really fricked-up .... wait until there are more than two or three major parties in this country.
Right now we have caucuses.
The problem is not with the political parties, they are what they are.
The problem is with our educational system and the MSM. Both of those, as they are right now, are cancers to this country.
Right now we have caucuses.
The problem is not with the political parties, they are what they are.
The problem is with our educational system and the MSM. Both of those, as they are right now, are cancers to this country.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:54 am
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:19 pm to Jack Ruby
Too many choices, would be complete clusterfrick
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:23 pm to Tunasntigers92
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clusterfrick
That's what we are now, we need more options. The worst thing to happen to this country was the adoption of the 2 party system. Either have no parties or multiple. Not just 2.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:25 pm to Jack Ruby
There is no big money for politicians to personally benefit from off of "offshoot" parties. There's your real reason for just the two parties we have. The closest I've seen to a third party having a semblance of making any waves was whatever party Ross Perot called himself. You're not going to be a viable third party when you wait until 10 months before the general election to make yourself known.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:04 am to Homesick Tiger
There will never be more than two major parties in America because our system is a Single member district plurality system.
It’s not a bad thing. Go study proportional representation and how those European governments have to form coalitions to sit an executive branch of leadership. It allows for a tiny party to become essentially a swing vote and weld enormous power.
It’s not a bad thing. Go study proportional representation and how those European governments have to form coalitions to sit an executive branch of leadership. It allows for a tiny party to become essentially a swing vote and weld enormous power.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 12:05 am
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:09 am to scrooster
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If you wanna see things get really fricked-up .... wait until their are more than two or three major parties in this country.
Exactly this.......Scrooster understands how other countries got really fricked up
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:30 am to Jack Ruby
There are just factions within each party... People always say we should have more than 2 major parties ,but it is not always better. Take Germany for example they have multiple parties and are struggling to form a coalition Government and will have real problems next election cycle when the Green Party and the AFD get more percentage of the votes. Everyone has vowed not to work with the AFD ,but they will overtake the SPD and be the second largest party and the CSU/CDU is on the verge of fracturing ,because Bavaria is tired of Merkel's shite. So again multiple parties are not always better. We do have the Libertarian and Green Party,but they can't get their shite together and come up with a reasonable platform and/or candidate that would gather more support to where they could become competitive and ultimately viable in a Presidential Election. Gary Johnson is in between an idiot and a retard ,and Jill Stein essentially supports eco-terrorist groups. I see what you are saying about Bernie using the Democrat Party as cover ,but Trump did the same thing. Trump is essentially a JFK Democrat and has jumped on the the Republican Party ,because it was being run by idiots and the Democrats have gone too far left so that is how he won ,by picking up the sane reasonable voters that the Democrat Party left behind. The problem with Bernie is his whole socialism shtick works on a small minority of voters and if the Democrats back him or someone like him they will get crushed.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:35 am to Jack Ruby
The only way you get more parties is if the powers that be decide we should have more parties, in which case, it's a sham.
If it doesn't occur in the face of a popular revolt or uprising, you can go ahead and bet its just more establishment bullshite.
If it doesn't occur in the face of a popular revolt or uprising, you can go ahead and bet its just more establishment bullshite.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:16 am to Jack Ruby
In reality, the lemmings want a king.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:18 am to BestBanker
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The only way you get more parties is if the powers that be decide we should have more parties, in which case, it's a sham.
Even that wouldn’t happen
The only way to have more parties is to completely change our structure of government to proportional representation.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:59 am to extremetigerfanatic
I am down for it, as long as the Dems split first
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:19 am to saints5021
You don’t want it.
Think about what it really means
Dems have 48 percent of Congress. Repubs have 48 percent and Crazy AOC creates a GREEN NEW DEAL party that somehow pulls at least 3 percent.
Both parties now need her to form a functioning Congress. And not only that, once she picks a side she can at anytime flip flop to the other side. So you have to keep her happy and capitulate to her wants or the other side will.
You are essentially giving a party with 3 percent of the vote power over the entire process.
I don’t want our government to depend on a freaking blowing in the wind swing vote of a small minority
This isn’t Survivor
Think about what it really means
Dems have 48 percent of Congress. Repubs have 48 percent and Crazy AOC creates a GREEN NEW DEAL party that somehow pulls at least 3 percent.
Both parties now need her to form a functioning Congress. And not only that, once she picks a side she can at anytime flip flop to the other side. So you have to keep her happy and capitulate to her wants or the other side will.
You are essentially giving a party with 3 percent of the vote power over the entire process.
I don’t want our government to depend on a freaking blowing in the wind swing vote of a small minority
This isn’t Survivor
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:29 am to extremetigerfanatic
Btw way,
Not only does her party now have in-proportionate power, her group now can actually grow because they have that power and incentive
Proportional representation is why European countries have so many weird fringe political groups with staying power
It’s not the hipster thing to say anymore but our founding fathers really were geniuses of their time to foresee this stuff and set up a government structure that forces slow methodical government change from within one of two main political parties and keeps radical fringe groups on the fringe.
Single member district plurality, a bicameral Congress with two distinct makeups, and an electoral college.
These things keep us from having crazy upheavals. They didn’t happen on accident. They did all that on purpose.
Not only does her party now have in-proportionate power, her group now can actually grow because they have that power and incentive
Proportional representation is why European countries have so many weird fringe political groups with staying power
It’s not the hipster thing to say anymore but our founding fathers really were geniuses of their time to foresee this stuff and set up a government structure that forces slow methodical government change from within one of two main political parties and keeps radical fringe groups on the fringe.
Single member district plurality, a bicameral Congress with two distinct makeups, and an electoral college.
These things keep us from having crazy upheavals. They didn’t happen on accident. They did all that on purpose.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:36 am to Jack Ruby
We made a 1/2@$$ attempt at 3 a few years ago. That (and Ross Perott) gave us the Clintons.
We don't need any more of results like that!
We don't need any more of results like that!
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:36 am to Jack Ruby
DJT is no where near a hard line conservative fwiw.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:36 am to Jack Ruby
If you want to see if something will work just take a look at where it's been tried. The countries in Europe have more than 2 parties. How's it working out for them?
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:38 am to Zach
So wish we would/could at least try term limits.
Curious to see how the power would flow under such laws.
Curious to see how the power would flow under such laws.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:47 am to goatmilker
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So wish we would/could at least try term limits.
Me too. When term limits came up in the 1970s one of the arguments against it:
'We wouldn't have any great statesmen.'
'Like who?'
'Well, like Everett Dirksen.'
It's 40 years later. We haven't had any great statesmen like Everett Dirksen since Everett Dirksen.
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