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If Trump was trying to collude with Russia
Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:52 pm
Wouldn’t he be less obvious than hiring Manafort?
Think about it. Manafort had business with Pro Russian Ukrainians and a Russian so-called Oligarch or two. Kind of risky to make a hire like that if you’re trying to help Russia on the sly, imo. No?
Think about it. Manafort had business with Pro Russian Ukrainians and a Russian so-called Oligarch or two. Kind of risky to make a hire like that if you’re trying to help Russia on the sly, imo. No?
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 4:53 pm
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Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:53 pm to baybeefeetz
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Wouldn’t he be less obvious than hiring Manafort?
Not if he's an idiot.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:55 pm to baybeefeetz
The entire narrative is one of the most far fetched things in American history, very sad how far the left and media has sunk
Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:57 pm to Strannix
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The entire narrative is one of the most far fetched things in American history,
It's absolutely amazing.
It definitely shows how simple minded people are and how even shitty propaganda works
Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
At one point the entire media was all in on “Donald Trump had Vladimir Putin hack the election” 
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:00 pm to Strannix
It's the same fearmongering that led us into the Cold War. The United States needs a boogeyman to keep the MIC faucet running. Putin is a perfect target. He's a Russian autocrat right out of the Hollywood script for a bad guy. As all-powerful as the left claims Putin is, you would think Russia wouldn't be such a shitehole in comparison to the United States.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:13 pm to Strannix
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At one point the entire media was all in on “Donald Trump had Vladimir Putin hack the election”
We are living in an age where actual journalism is dead and yellow journalism is the norm. The National Inquirer was jus decades ahead of the competition.
People love fake reality shows and fake reality news. We are being systematically dumbed down to accept authoritarianism.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:15 pm to SCLibertarian
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It's the same fearmongering that led us into the Cold War
No. Competition between two superpowers led us into the Cold War. The resulting military buildup and the collapse of one of the superpowers is what ultimately placed the US as the lone global hegemon, and has allowed us for decades to set the rules of the international system.
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The United States needs a boogeyma
Russia wasn’t a boogeyman then;China isn’t a boogeyman now. It’s not about manufacturing a false threat, it’s about identifying threats to US interests and moving to minimize them.
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As all-powerful as the left claims Putin is, you would think Russia wouldn't be such a shitehole in comparison to the United States.
Within Russia, he is as powerful as any autocrat has been in their country. That said, personal power does not always equate to national success. It’s often counterproductive.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:16 pm to LSUconvert
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Not if he's an idiot.
Multi-billionaire president of the United States married to a supermodel.
You know, an idiot.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:19 pm to baybeefeetz
You got it backwards, Putin is colluding with every one to take down America.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:21 pm to themunch
I'm far more worried about China than Russia when it comes to the espionage.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:21 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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Competition between two superpowers led us into the Cold War.
No, just no.
We were not competing for Cuba or any other country. We were always about stopping the spread of communism.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:23 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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Russia wasn’t a boogeyman then
We faked bomb drills too.
There was a reason they blamed Oswald and had him linked to Russia. Do not be blinded my friend.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:24 pm to RazorBroncs
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Multi-billionaire president of the United States married to a supermodel.
What part of that has anything to do with his intelligence?
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:25 pm to LSUconvert
It all happened on accident. duh
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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People love fake reality shows and fake reality news. We are being systematically dumbed down to accept authoritarianism.
Deep down this is what scares/worries me more than anything. Sure, I'm a Republican and a Trump supporter, but I know he'll be just fine no matter what the news put out about him. He's one tough SOB that's had all sorts of mud slung at him throughout the years.
My worry is that people not only follow this stuff willingly and believe it, but they let it further galvanize them in their divided hatred of the other side. It may not be the next administration or the one after, but eventually some opportunistic individual will win the oval office and proceed to weaponize the media machine for THEIR own good opposed to the overall party's, and then we have another Hitler/Stalin/Mao type but on our own soil.
People are just so gullible when the news says what they WANT it to say - things that fall in line with their deep-seeded beliefs. It needs to be stopped, and soon.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:28 pm to RazorBroncs
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but eventually some opportunistic individual will win the oval office and proceed to weaponize the media machine for THEIR own good opposed to the overall party's
Open your minds eye. It has already happened but not like you are thinking. It is Our opposition party that has all this in the works at this moment and has for some time.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:33 pm to baybeefeetz
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If Trump was trying to collude with Russia
He would not have broken any laws.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:58 pm to themunch
you Simply aren’t correct. Leave this to the professionals. You have theories, but the reality is that the US/Soviet fight for regional and global influence set the rules of the international system we benefitted from for decades. Don’t post if you don’t understand.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 6:01 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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You have theories, but the reality is that the US/Soviet fight for regional and global influence set the rules of the international system we benefitted from for decades.
Do you think the 58,318 men who died in Vietnam benefitted from our fight for global hegemony and/or influence? How about their loved ones?
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