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If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid of
Posted by burger bearcat


RINOs bitching about Trump never cease to amaze me. All they would have to defeat him is run to his right on the issues. Vaccines, spending, immigration, trade, social issues, liberty issues, patriot act, etc.
But no, instead they think they just want to go after him because of his demeanor or style. No one cares, and no one is going to settle for a watered down technocratic globalist .
Trump continues to exist in the complete void that is the GOP, as there is no one else willing to fill that space. The GOP worried about Trump, just put Mitch McConnell back in power. They really just need to shut up and sit this one out.
But no, instead they think they just want to go after him because of his demeanor or style. No one cares, and no one is going to settle for a watered down technocratic globalist .
Trump continues to exist in the complete void that is the GOP, as there is no one else willing to fill that space. The GOP worried about Trump, just put Mitch McConnell back in power. They really just need to shut up and sit this one out.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by Hennigan
on 11/25/22 at 4:06 pm to burger bearcat


Even if they do, populism and nationalism won’t vanish.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by Lou Pai
on 11/25/22 at 4:20 pm to burger bearcat

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All they would have to defeat him is run to his right on the issues.

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re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by davyjones
on 11/25/22 at 4:20 pm to burger bearcat


In this poster’s opinion, I propose that there’s been a very consequential change in rightist voters. That would be a shift in general approach to political matters and topics involving the political intersecting with everyday life. It’s simply a matter of an overall shift from a principles-driven approach….to….a pragmatism-driven approach. I believe vastly more people just want the ever intensifying problems directly affecting them in very serious ways, they just want them to go away. And by whatever means necessary, pretty much. Which might at times be in conflict with a given principle or principles.
That’s not what many folks, notably quite a few amongst us here, not music to their ears, to put it mildly. But again, only my view of it, more and more people are becoming more and more affected in ways they previously thought were immune to in one way or another. How does this relate to the specific thread topic? It’s that Trump was an inevitability, and despite the very best efforts and tactics possibly available, he hasn’t and isn’t going anywhere.
That’s not what many folks, notably quite a few amongst us here, not music to their ears, to put it mildly. But again, only my view of it, more and more people are becoming more and more affected in ways they previously thought were immune to in one way or another. How does this relate to the specific thread topic? It’s that Trump was an inevitability, and despite the very best efforts and tactics possibly available, he hasn’t and isn’t going anywhere.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by BamaScoop
on 11/25/22 at 4:30 pm to burger bearcat

If they had done their job he would have never run for office.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by Sooner5030
on 11/25/22 at 4:46 pm to burger bearcat

I like some things about Trump.
But he barely beat HRC and then he lost to an idiot that hid in his basement.
Maybe he should sit one out and let someone else have a try.
But he barely beat HRC and then he lost to an idiot that hid in his basement.
Maybe he should sit one out and let someone else have a try.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by Indefatigable on 11/25/22 at 4:48 pm to burger bearcat
Trump’s electoral deficiencies have nothing to do with policy and everything to do with his inability to keep his mouth shut when appropriate.
This post was edited on 11/25 at 4:58 pm
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by shoelessjoe
on 11/25/22 at 4:52 pm to burger bearcat

The problem is Trump threatens them for some reason. If he didn’t, you wouldn’t hear his name mentioned. But, the media, GOPe and democrats continuously talk about a president that hasn’t been in office for about two years. He broke them and know once back in office he will tear all of the power, that they have longed for, away from them.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by BayouBlitz
on 11/25/22 at 4:54 pm to burger bearcat

Run too far right and you'll lose the general election.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by burger bearcat
on 11/25/22 at 4:55 pm to shoelessjoe

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The problem is Trump threatens them for some reason.
That's because, despite all of Trump's flaws, he is actually serious about doing the things he talks about. If the GOP was actually serious about doing the things they talk about (like repealing Obamacare) there never would have been a Trump.
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re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by ItNeverRains
on 11/25/22 at 4:57 pm to Lou Pai


[img]Lou Pai[/img]
I like Ron D. I think he can continue to make Florida the best state in the country. Ron’s relationship with Ken Griffin and Griffin’s relationship with Xi Jinping is an issue at the federal level. It’s a bad marriage. Coupled with the fact most Trump supporters feel Trump was robbed and deserves a second term, it’s a bad decision.
I like Ron D. I think he can continue to make Florida the best state in the country. Ron’s relationship with Ken Griffin and Griffin’s relationship with Xi Jinping is an issue at the federal level. It’s a bad marriage. Coupled with the fact most Trump supporters feel Trump was robbed and deserves a second term, it’s a bad decision.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by FooManChoo
on 11/25/22 at 5:08 pm to burger bearcat


As a Christian, there are a lot of things about Trump that bother me, but it’s hard to sell me on how bad he is as a President because of his personality flaws when Democrats as a party are worse on that front, seeking to destroy all their enemies (including voters) personally, and say the most vile lies to get what they want, even if it means destroying the country.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by AggieHank86
on 11/25/22 at 5:15 pm to Hennigan


quote:Ah, “populism” … the politics of appealing to the least-intelligent and most-ignorant of the populace.
populism and nationalism won’t vanish.
This post was edited on 11/25 at 5:20 pm
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by davyjones
on 11/25/22 at 5:24 pm to AggieHank86


Too far, Hankster. Condescension is a tough pill to swallow. You’re armed plenty well enough to not have to go there.
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by burger bearcat
on 11/25/22 at 5:32 pm to AggieHank86

quote:
Ah, “populism” … the politics of appealing to the least-intelligent and most-ignorant of the populace.
As opposed to what our current system of "democracy" or whatever they call it is? Is sweeping homeless camps, housing projects, college campuses, and nursing homes for ballots supposed to get us a higher IQ electorate?
This post was edited on 11/25 at 5:33 pm
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by AggieHank86
on 11/25/22 at 5:43 pm to davyjones


quote:Davy, I understand what you are saying, but I have utter contempt for populists.
Condescension is a tough pill to swallow. You’re armed plenty well enough to not have to go there.
Populism is not an ideology. It is simply seeking the lowest common denominator.
I can respect social conservatives, though I don’t like them. I can even respect the far left, though I do not like them, either.
But populists are simply cynical demagogues.
This post was edited on 11/25 at 6:02 pm
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by oldskule
on 11/25/22 at 5:45 pm to burger bearcat

What TRUMP wants, most good people want!
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by Lou Pai
on 11/25/22 at 6:34 pm to ItNeverRains

quote:
I like Ron D. I think he can continue to make Florida the best state in the country. Ron’s relationship with Ken Griffin and Griffin’s relationship with Xi Jinping is an issue at the federal level. It’s a bad marriage. Coupled with the fact most Trump supporters feel Trump was robbed and deserves a second term, it’s a bad decision.
Griffin gave a ton of money to Trump
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by Adam Banks
on 11/25/22 at 6:45 pm to ItNeverRains

quote:
I like Ron D. I think he can continue to make Florida the best state in the country. Ron’s relationship with Ken Griffin and Griffin’s relationship with Xi Jinping is an issue at the federal level. It’s a bad marriage. Coupled with the fact most Trump supporters feel Trump was robbed and deserves a second term, it’s a bad decision.
I’m sure you just let Erick prince and Stephen Schwartzman are just fine
re: If the GOP was actually a serious party, Trump would be pretty easy to get rid ofPosted by Loserman
on 11/25/22 at 6:55 pm to burger bearcat

If the GOP was a serious party then Trump would have never run in 2016
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