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Jp1LSU
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re: If masks are so great
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Data collecting, studies, and trends. It is a fluid situation.


Don’t be speaking that nonsensical language here.


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CMBears1259
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re: If masks are so great
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All were seeing right now is panic and hysteria, to a not particularly dangerous virus, driven by an increase in testing, thus an increase in positive tests, and motivated by partisan politics.

This is about power, and defeating Trump.

Everything, including the truth, is expendable to achieve those goals.



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GregMaddux
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re: If masks are so great
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. Many, many studies have been done by now that show the effectiveness of masks.


Id love to read three of them. Link?


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longwayfromLA
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re: If masks are so great
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You say many, but you offer no specifics.


The issue with offering specifics about the effectiveness of masks against the spread of COVID is that those who don't believe, at this late stage, that masks are effective are generally very motivated to continue in that disbelief no matter what. So it's kind of pointless. Perhaps you're different, so here you go.
Link1: LINK
Link2: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200612172200.htm
Link which contains links to multiple studies: https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/16/mask-covid

Anyhow, there is not much disagreement on this point in the medical community any longer. Your doctor wants you to mask up when you're in public.

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You say other countries, but you give no examples.

Japan, S. Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Canada, Greece, Switzerland, Norway, The Netherlands, Denmark, Ireland, and probably a few more that I forgot are all headed in the opposite direction than we are. All of the rich countries are doing better than us other than Sweden. There's no good reason for that.

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This is about power, and defeating Trump.

Is it your belief that the people of Japan, S. Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Canada, Greece, Switzerland, Norway, The Netherlands, Denmark, Ireland, and a few more countries I can't recall were thinking about Trump when they put in place and executed their mitigation plans to manage and in some cases stamp out the virus? Because all I'm saying is do what they did.


GreenRockTiger
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re: If masks are so great
I'm guessing the flu doesn't exist anymore.

My sister, nephew (not that sister's son), and a good friend of mine had the vaccine last October ... all three had the flu TWICE this season - before the covid scare (in Nov & Jan).

My children, spouse & I have never had the flu shot ...we've also never had the flu.

We did catch the H1N1 in 2009 at Disney World ... when it was considered a pandemic also, but there were no major shutdowns or anything.

The flu vaccine doesn't always work ... this covid vaccine won't either.


westide
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re: If masks are so great
Most mask are only good for a short period of time. In order to be effective, you must change often, which most people can't or will not do. Once it gets wet with sweat, it is useless.


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bayoumuscle21
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Bars are the problem, backyard gatherings are the problem, to many people ignoring the rules are the problem, and on and on and on he goes.


Exactly! Riots and protests do not spread the virus!

Stupid world is stupid.


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AggieHank86
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If masks are so great. 1. How come we totally shutdown everything in the first place
shite.

We went almost an entire hour without anyone starting this identical thread.


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frogglet
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Link us a few. I've asked in these threads for some real science on masks-v-COVID and nobody has been able to deliver.


LINK

Some are better/more relevant than others.


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The flu vaccine doesn't always work .

There are always multiple strains of flu virus out there. They try to pick the most common one and vaccinate against that one. it's likely they got strain B. I didn't get a flu shot and I still got it, while other years I've had the shot and not gotten it. Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.


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 It is a fluid situation.


What does OP have to do with your butthole?


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Lima Whiskey
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re: If masks are so great
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Your doctor wants you to mask up when you're in public.


He thinks masks are stupid, and the lockdown and social distancing measures are medical malpractice

LINK /

For the record, my primaries name is Dr Brent Blue.

His practice is in Jackson Wyoming.

I will quote from one of his recent updates.

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The media needs to be held accountable for its incendiary reporting of Covid 19. Just as an example, below are some excerpts from last night’s CBS News with O’Donnell and my deflating interpretations.

1. O’Donnell reports a headline that predicts there will be 200,000 deaths by October. That is four months from now. Since we already have 135,000 deaths in the first four months, that is actual a decrease of month to month mortality.

2. CBS O’Donnell reports 50 Florida hospital ICUs are full. Since there are 325 hospitals in Florida, is this a significant number? They also mention that in some hospitals, there is up to a 24 hour wait for an ICU bed. First, as an ER doc, I can tell you this happens at various times. CBS implies that the patient is being hurt by this. Not true. The patient is still being treated but may be in a gurney instead of a bed. CBS also does not mention how many of the ICU beds are Covid patients.

3. For drama, reporters are wearing masks on camera even though no one is within six or more feet from them. In fact, several reporters set up their own camera and tripod, so no one is even within 20 feet of them. Even Fauci during his CBS interview did not wear a mask.

4. CBS reports that three Florida Baptist system hospitals are full. There are six in South Florida alone! I could not count how many there were statewide.

5. CBS reports that “cases are surging.” The word “case” is an epidemiologic word for a positive test. It does not mean someone is sick or even has any symptoms—only that they tested positive. If you test more people, you will have more positives or “cases.” The more important numbers which they do not report are the actual number of Covid patients admitted to hospitals and the number of deaths FROM Covid (not with). This type of reporting reminds me of the stupidity of reporting body counts in Vietnam.

6. CBS reports that Texas cross the 10,000 positive tests per day number (CBS called them “cases”) but they do not state how many people were tested. Is that a 1% positive rate or a 50% positive rate? Makes a big difference statistically but probably not clinically.

7. CBS reports long lines for testing and delayed return of test results. True. If one tests negative today, what significant is that tomorrow or the day after? CBS does not ask that question nor ponder the answer.

8. CBS reports that a “study” is out that states 50% of all infections are transmitted by asymptomatic people. They do not give the source nor whether it was a medical peer reviewed publication. It could have been reported in the National Enquirer.

9. CBS reports that PPEs are critically low for ER staff in “surging” areas. When interviewed, an ER staff member said they are down to a two-week supply! Wow, only two weeks. I wonder how long it will take a truck to drive across the United States with supplies.

10. CBS states that testing and tracing will save lives. No, it delays when the infections will happen.

CBS also does not mention that the CDC estimates that there are ten (10) positive people for every one positive that is tested. If you extrapolate, that takes the serious and critical infection rates down well below 1% and the death rate down below that of influenza. Unfortunately, that is not eye-popping news.

Pet your dog.


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Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
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re: If masks are so great
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The CDC doesn’t recommend mask for healthily people not showing symptoms, only for sick people displaying symptoms (and probably recommends a medical mask).


This is objectively false.

“ CDC recommends that people wear cloth face coverings in public settings and when around people who don’t live in your household, especially when other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.”

“ Cloth face coverings are most likely to reduce the spread of COVID-19 when they are widely used by people in public settings.”

“ COVID-19 can be spread by people who do not have symptoms and do not know that they are infected. That’s why it’s important for everyone to wear cloth face coverings in public”
CDC site
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Lima Whiskey
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re: If masks are so great
The CDC mandate is based on conjecture.


David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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re: If masks are so great
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Some are better/more relevant than others.



Well, point to one that’s worth a shite. Hopefully it’s not this one -

Cloth Masks May Prevent Transmission of COVID-19: An Evidence-Based, Risk-Based Approach,"


Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
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re: If masks are so great
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The CDC mandate is based on conjecture.


That’s a different statement than the one in the OP. He objectively stated the opposite position of the CDC.


Lima Whiskey
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re: If masks are so great
Sure - but it should be mentioned that CDC thinks it’s a good idea. But they’re just guessing.


Froman
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re: If masks are so great
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Data collecting, studies, and trends. It is a fluid situation.


Yep. There’s a lot more info saying the masks work than not, but these anti-mask losers don’t give a shite. I wish natural selection would just wipe them out. Well, I don’t wish death on anybody, but if their own stupidity causes them to get sick and die, I don’t really feel sorry for them. It’s the people doing things the right way that they infect that I’ll truly feel sorry for.


frogglet
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Lima Whiskey
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re: If masks are so great
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There’s a lot more info saying the masks work than not, but these anti-mask losers don’t give a shite. I wish natural selection would just wipe them out.


One, stop panicking.

Covid has a mortality rate that will end up below influenza.

Two, seriously? You make it sound like it keeps you up at night. As if it makes you physically uncomfortable.

And that’s ridiculous. Pull yourself together.
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